[Noisebridge-discuss] Housekeeping history

[jim]

Yes! Yes! Yes! !!!!! 



On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 18:39 -0700, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> Will Sargent wrote, On 20110630 143724:
> > See, I think this "someone should step up and take responsibility" is part
> > of the problem.  No-one wants to get stuck with the "I clean Noisebridge"
> > job, and I can understand why.
> 
> It's our space, part of participating in a space is we all clean it.
> That makes more sense to me then electing an official are paying someone
> to do the job.
> 
> If you're looking for some place you don't need to clean up, might I
> suggest looking for a commercial work share space.
> 
> Additionally if we get a facilities manager to deal with the space, why
> bother cleaning up after yourself? At work I don't wash my own dishes,
> the company I work for decided it's cheaper to hire somewhere else than
> for its employees to waste their (highly expensive) time on that sort of
> thing. I go to work to work and get paid for it.
> 
> Noisebridge is a community, I go there to participate in it. I wouldn't
> see Noisebridge in the same light if we were paying someone to come in
> and clean up after ourselves. We're not getting paid to go there and
> work towards a business valued goal. It's our space and I think we
> should work towards making it hospitable to whatever point we want it to be.
> 
> I like the idea that the current configuration, layout, where everything
> is of Noisebridge happened because someone random, member or not decided
> to make that happen. I like that I can show up and decide, "Well fuck
> these fucking doors they don't belong here anymore" and move them
> elsewhere without having to answer to someone who's getting paid to make
> sure everything little thing is exactly where it should be. It would
> feel like a very different place if someone got pissy at me for removing
> a door, not because they're a total asshole member, but because they're
> getting paid to be an asshole.
> 
> No one single person should have to spearhead this effort, the whole
> community should. Considering the number of man hours wasted in this
> debating through our mailing list and at meetings, how much cleaner
> could have Noisebridge have gotten if we just had a single cleaning day
> every 2 or 3 weeks?
> 
> Hell someone for a while had a cleaning thing setup at the end of every
> meeting, that worked great when people paid attention to that last
> agenda item.
> 
> You're all smart, hack a solution together people, make Noisebridge your
> community.
> 
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