[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 44, Issue 29

Lee Worden worden.lee at gmail.com
Tue Jun 28 19:47:57 UTC 2011


Adam Curtis, "The Trap" (BBC documentary, find it on the internet)

> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:19:21 -0700
> From: aestetix aestetix<aestetix at gmail.com>
>
> "Finite and Infinite Games" by James Carse.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Brian Morris<cymraegish at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> >  oops
>> >
>> >  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >  From: Brian Morris<cymraegish at gmail.com>
>> >  Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM
>> >  Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Books on Game Theory: Recommendations?
>> >  To: Theron Trowbridge<theron.trowbridge at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >  According to a recent print article I read, things have changed greatly in
>> >  Game Theory in the recent past. Much more application areas beyond econ, and
>> >  much more interdisciplinary work (such as combining with math from quantum
>> >  physics even). So I would myself urge the survey of a recent first before
>> >  classical papers.
>> >
>> >  Also the idea of utility and rational self interest is definitely contested
>> >  but ideas definitely also within (new) game theory to deal with that. So
>> >  interaction with psychology there (people are by far not always either
>> >  rational or selfish).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Theron Trowbridge<
>> >  theron.trowbridge at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >
>>> >>  It's a dense book, but Theory Of Games And Economic Behavior by John
>>> >>  von Neumann and Oskar Morgenstern is the seminal work on the economics
>>> >>  side of things (and is an expansion of of the paper that created the
>>> >>  field of Game Theory).
>>> >>
>>> >>  A broader discussion of Game Theory (and a much more readable book)
>>> >>  can be found in The Prisoner's Dilemma by William Poundstone.  This is
>>> >>  a fine book, and I recommend it to everyone, regardless of
>>> >>  pre-existing interest in the field.
>>> >>
>>> >>  The classic treatise on game theory in general (setting aside
>>> >>  real-world social applications) can be found in the RAND Corporation's
>>> >>  report, Games Of Strategy - Theory And Application.  It was published
>>> >>  as a book in the 1960's that simplified some of the math and included
>>> >>  some great illustrations, but the original report is available as a
>>> >>  free download:http://www.rand.org/pubs/commercial_books/CB149-1.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Don't know if this helps.  None of these directly deal with
>>> >>  psychology, except indirectly - von Neumann wanted to understand the
>>> >>  group behavior of collective entities like the stock market.
>>> >>
>>> >>  And while it might be argued that Von Neumann and the RAND Corporation
>>> >>  took the concepts of Game Theory to draw conclusions that may not be
>>> >>  particularly compatible with "peace, justices, and the good of
>>> >>  humanity," their work is nonetheless key in the field.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  -Theron
>>> >>  ^
>>> >>
>>> >>  On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Corey McGuire<coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
>>> >>  wrote:
>>>> >>  >  Hey all,
>>>> >>  >
>>>> >>  >  Looking for a book that bridges the subjects of psychology, business,
>>> >>  and
>>>> >>  >  game theory.
>>>> >>  >
>>>> >>  >  I have a friend who is applying such concepts for peace, justices, and
>>> >>  the
>>>> >>  >  good of humanity, and I wanted to get them a resource they could study
>>> >>  to
>>>> >>  >  understand such dynamics so that they may apply it toward progress...
>>>> >>  >
>>>> >>  >  ...deets, of course, withheld.
>>>> >>  >
>>>> >>  >  This is all about encouragement, reward, carrot dangling, feedback,
>>>> >>  >  teamwork, etc, etc.  Heck...even resource management and high scores.
>>>> >>  >
>>>> >>  >  What'chu'got, Noisebridge?
>>>> >>  >



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