[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 44, Issue 29
Lee Worden
worden.lee at gmail.com
Tue Jun 28 19:47:57 UTC 2011
Adam Curtis, "The Trap" (BBC documentary, find it on the internet)
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:19:21 -0700
> From: aestetix aestetix<aestetix at gmail.com>
>
> "Finite and Infinite Games" by James Carse.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Brian Morris<cymraegish at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > oops
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Brian Morris<cymraegish at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Books on Game Theory: Recommendations?
>> > To: Theron Trowbridge<theron.trowbridge at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > According to a recent print article I read, things have changed greatly in
>> > Game Theory in the recent past. Much more application areas beyond econ, and
>> > much more interdisciplinary work (such as combining with math from quantum
>> > physics even). So I would myself urge the survey of a recent first before
>> > classical papers.
>> >
>> > Also the idea of utility and rational self interest is definitely contested
>> > but ideas definitely also within (new) game theory to deal with that. So
>> > interaction with psychology there (people are by far not always either
>> > rational or selfish).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Theron Trowbridge<
>> > theron.trowbridge at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> >> It's a dense book, but Theory Of Games And Economic Behavior by John
>>> >> von Neumann and Oskar Morgenstern is the seminal work on the economics
>>> >> side of things (and is an expansion of of the paper that created the
>>> >> field of Game Theory).
>>> >>
>>> >> A broader discussion of Game Theory (and a much more readable book)
>>> >> can be found in The Prisoner's Dilemma by William Poundstone. This is
>>> >> a fine book, and I recommend it to everyone, regardless of
>>> >> pre-existing interest in the field.
>>> >>
>>> >> The classic treatise on game theory in general (setting aside
>>> >> real-world social applications) can be found in the RAND Corporation's
>>> >> report, Games Of Strategy - Theory And Application. It was published
>>> >> as a book in the 1960's that simplified some of the math and included
>>> >> some great illustrations, but the original report is available as a
>>> >> free download:http://www.rand.org/pubs/commercial_books/CB149-1.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't know if this helps. None of these directly deal with
>>> >> psychology, except indirectly - von Neumann wanted to understand the
>>> >> group behavior of collective entities like the stock market.
>>> >>
>>> >> And while it might be argued that Von Neumann and the RAND Corporation
>>> >> took the concepts of Game Theory to draw conclusions that may not be
>>> >> particularly compatible with "peace, justices, and the good of
>>> >> humanity," their work is nonetheless key in the field.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Theron
>>> >> ^
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Corey McGuire<coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Hey all,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Looking for a book that bridges the subjects of psychology, business,
>>> >> and
>>>> >> > game theory.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I have a friend who is applying such concepts for peace, justices, and
>>> >> the
>>>> >> > good of humanity, and I wanted to get them a resource they could study
>>> >> to
>>>> >> > understand such dynamics so that they may apply it toward progress...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ...deets, of course, withheld.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > This is all about encouragement, reward, carrot dangling, feedback,
>>>> >> > teamwork, etc, etc. Heck...even resource management and high scores.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > What'chu'got, Noisebridge?
>>>> >> >
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