[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: Seeking info about Intro to C Programming class

Sat Jun 18 03:14:42 UTC 2011

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From: Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Seeking info about Intro to C Programming
class
To: Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com>

Yes I think it's Monday 6pm. Or anyway I ran into them a couple times there
recently.

There are some excellent intros to Cocoa for mac of course GUI not my thing.

There is also GNU Step (you can install it on Mac via fink , or on linux as
an alternate desktop)

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> There's also an iPhone developer group that used to (and maybe still does)
> get together for helping each other with similar goals. I went a few times
> just to meet them. They're a great bunch of people and very helpful. They'll
> definitely help you get on the right track for learning objective-c and
> iPhone development.
>
> Find then on meetup.com. And they may still have noisebridge as their
> meeting location.
>
> Glen
>
> On Jun 16, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Erik Schneider <eriktrips at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks all you wonderfully helpful people!
> >
> > I am learning C because I wanted also to learn Objective-C and
> > eventually develop for OS X and iOS. That's a long ways off though--I
> > am self-taught in programming and have not yet made the leap from
> > simple command-line toys to GUI application programming. Also I know
> > it is not necessarily necessary to learn C before Objective-C but I am
> > a nuts-and-bolts kind of person and like to start at relatively low
> > levels. Relatively. I know I could go lower still, but I have only so
> > many lifetimes to live.
> >
> > I have the K&R and will probably go back to it soon. It was a bit
> > terse for a relative newbie; it was also frustrating that all the
> > examples in the first few chapters are for processing input but they
> > do not teach you how to input input until much later, so I was not
> > happy not being able to test my code. I could have looked ahead I
> > suppose, but I have a thing for starting with Chapter One and
> > following with Chapter Two, etc. unless I am reading poetry, in which
> > case starting in the middle is always recommended.
> >
> > Thanks for the video links. I will check those out!
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:19, ashish makani <ashish.makani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> My suggestions :
> >>
> >> 1.If you like video lectures, here is a harvard course where all the
> video
> >> lectures & assignments, are available online for free.
> >> They are a bit long, but are pretty engaging , in both content &
> delivery,
> >> IMHO.
> >> http://cs50.tv/
> >>
> >> 2. If you are trying to learn programming , and don't care about the
> >> language, MIT's introductory programming course 6.00 is also a great
> place
> >> to start.
> >> http://mit600.mit.edu/blog/course-info/
> >>
> http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-fall-2008/video-lectures/
> >>
> >> All the Best,
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> ashish
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To me, the advantage of K&R is that it is small and can work / review
> >>> through it quick.
> >>> It is maybe hard to find newer books which go into relevant topics
> which
> >>> are not huge and heavy.
> >>>
> >>> For me, C++ is an advanced language to work with, tools have been
> >>> developed to make it easier to work with large projects, eg cmake and
> QT but
> >>> not everybody uses and there are other choices. It was the first OO
> language
> >>> and IMHO compromise between C and the higher level OO languages such as
> Java
> >>> and Python, which have become standard for learning OOP.  Also most
> other
> >>> languages have OO extensions.
> >>>
> >>> C is close to the metal as they say and that may be kind of
> interesting.
> >>> Also fast. Depending on your interests you could find possibly an
> >>> application oriented book to go along with K&R. In general many langs
> have a
> >>> foreign function interface (FFI) for speed or hardware interface which
> >>> people mostly use C functions. So you can look there at small functions
> that
> >>> do specific things. To give you some motivating or interesting
> examples.
> >>>
> >>> What is your motivation for learning C ? Mine was originally for
> numerical
> >>> programming (because required for a job), then later as a bridge to C++
> >>> (which I found disappointing, wish I had gone with Python).
> >>>
> >>> One approach to learning a new programming language which may work for
> you
> >>> is to translate something. For instance take a Python function that is
> >>> central to your/ some code and rewrite it in C, simply plug it in and
> see if
> >>> it works, and see if it is any faster. I don't know how common this is
> in
> >>> Python (being new to it) but it is pretty ubiquitous in Perl (which can
> have
> >>> slow downs pretty bad).
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Erik Schneider <eriktrips at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi I'm kind of new but not entirely but enough so that I don't know if
> >>>> this is the right place to ask but since they do not have a list of
> >>>> their own that I can find:
> >>>>
> >>>> Is anyone from the Intro to C Programming class reading who could
> >>>> answer questions like could I start attending next week?
> >>>> And if yes:
> >>>> Is the class using a text or texts, and if so what is/are the text(s)?
> >>>> And is there a particular thing the class is working on for next week?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you can answer my questions but it would be more polite to email me
> >>>> the info than to use this list, then:
> >>>> eriktrips at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> Erik JM Schneider
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> >
> >
> > --
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> > eriktrips at gmail.com
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