[Noisebridge-discuss] Electricity usage at the space is up UP UP

[Bruce Wolfe]

Without the physical evidence being found by suggested methods, we cannot
theorize nor assume anything. Who knows, maybe there's a vampire or parasite
in the building. Been known to happen esp. in older buildings with less
knowing tenants.

Be smart and use the collect intelligwnce we're famous for to do the correct
forensics. Won't cost anything but just our time.

Bruce

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If you speak of anything else eating up power at Noisebridge, you're a fool.


--Rubin Abdi
rubin at starset.net

Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
On Jun 25, 2011 10:41 AM, "Bruce Wolfe" <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Noisebridge memberships are reasonable but increasing memberships and
> reducing access to non-members may be a way to go, possibly having certain
> open access hours instead. Though with increased volume of memberships
comes
> more usage. Crunching the numbers would be in order.
>
> But, that brings up another question: To what group does increase of power
> usage correlate? Members current w/ no increase, members new, non-members,
> etc.?
>
> If to new members then net revenue should be the same. And, so on.
>
> Bruce
>
> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
> On Jun 25, 2011 10:24 AM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> If anything I would say overall use of the sewing machines has declined
> over
>> the last year; it used to be much harder to get time on the single
needle.
>>
>> In the last year we have acquired some big hogs:
>> -vending machine
>> -second fridge
>> -lazor
>>
>> As well as, in my estimation, slightly increasing kitchen use and
steadily
>> increasingly large numbers of people that are soldering on mondays. Also,
>> just MORE users. If we are charging 20 more laptops every week that could
>> add up, no?
>>
>> IMNSHO all commendable uses of the space (well, except maybe the vending
>> machine, curious what the ROI is there when it's adjusted for power
>> consumption).
>>
>> Maybe we can find a way to blame the hippies.
>>
>> Maybe we can find a way to more prominently solicit donations.
>>
>> mediumreality.com
>> On Jun 24, 2011 6:27 PM, "Bruce Wolfe" <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How about WiFi webcams with white LEDs pointing onto the meters? Then
you
>>> can walk around the space with a smartphone even, unplugging devices and
>>> don't need the additional humans in the creepy basement.
>>>
>>> How many new servers were installed lately, too? Remember, that data
>> centers
>>> charge for rackspace based on power consumption.
>>>
>>> I have to say that kitchen appliances and anything that is AC motorized
>> will
>>> probably be the culprit. Sorry, fabric-hackers, maybe sewing machines.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have mechanical meters, I think the smart meters are due in the next
>>>> year or so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Wolfe <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, are these PG$E mechanical or Smart meters?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Good idea. A variant is to unplug the suspect device
>>>>> > and plug it into something that measures Amps (e.g. a
>>>>> > variac). What this will yield is a snapshot of amps.
>>>>> > What's additionally needed is to know the amount of use
>>>>> > during a billing period.
>>>>> > A gizmo such as Andy's suggestion (we have one buried
>>>>> > behind the refridge next to the vending machine) can show
>>>>> > power usage for a time period. (I saw it but didn't want
>>>>> > to move all the stuff necessary so's to retrieve it--if
>>>>> > someone does retrieve it, maybe it'd be good to have a
>>>>> > well-known storage place for it or the note someone would
>>>>> > write to indicate it's current working location.)
>>>>> > I suspect the cooking stuff as the primary sucker of
>>>>> > power and NB money: can cookers tell if there's been
>>>>> > greater use of that stuff in the last three months over
>>>>> > the previous quarter?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:10 -0700, Bruce Wolfe wrote:
>>>>> >> Go analog and start unplugging things one at a time while someone
is
>>>>> >> watching the meter spin (or numbers flip) while on walkie-talkies,
> or
>>>>> >> a human chain to relay the message up and down or maybe just plain
>> old
>>>>> >> two cans and string.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Bruce
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
>>>>> >>
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