[Noisebridge-discuss] Housekeeping history

Will Sargent will.sargent at gmail.com
Thu Jun 30 02:54:50 UTC 2011


> The system I described above worked really well, and is a whole like
> nicer for the community we've created as it keeps us focused in making
> Noisebridge work on our own than throwing money to someone else to fix
> for us.
>

It worked really well when you were doing it.  But no-one else is doing it,
and you got referred to as the "facilities manager."  That's gotta suck.


> As much as I know we are a group of filthy hackers who still live in our
> mom's basement, it would be nice to grow a little instead of letting
> someone else clean up after us. Then again fuck Noisebridge, I hope the
> hippies burn the space down with the sage they've been burning there
> recently, it would be the easiest way to clean the space up.
>

Cleaning is too big a problem to attack individually.  And while we could
put people on a rotating list, in practice the place has been a mess for a
while and that hasn't happened.

And even if you did get a shortlist of people willing to do it, and it got
organized and it even worked for a while -- I have with the "community
driven by nagging" solution is that eventually, people will get sick of
nagging and/or cleaning.  A community that's willing to clean up and
maintain the space would be great... but that's not Noisebridge.
Noisebridge is made up of filthy hackers fresh out of the basement who have
to remember the grunting sounds that mean "welcome" in basic human.
Noisebridge is a step up from the basement, but it's not a community of neat
freaks.

I don't think spending money on a cleaning service is throwing money down
the drain.  It's not like cleaning makes the community "stronger" in anyway,
or asserts moral superiority.  It's just housecleaning.  It's the same
problem whether members do it or people we pay do it.  If there's a way to
get people involved and working for the community, I'd rather have them
teaching a class or helping someone with a project -- interacting with their
peers instead of with a mop.

I think anything that can be done to get Noisebridge clean to the point
where you can't write your name in the dust on the floor.  I'm not
particularly fussed how we get there.  But it should be something that we
can follow through on and implement.

Bonus points if the space doesn't disturb or put off the (huge) number of
people who come to Noisebridge and tell their friends about it.

Will.
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