[Noisebridge-discuss] Housekeeping history

[rachel lyra hospodar]

what if, instead of using The Sandwich Money to get a maid, we use it to
pay a super-part-time facilities manager?  we'd probably then want to
give them a Sandwich Budget but hey, it wouldn't have to be that much.
we could even do Tasty Tacos instead of sandwiches for added food value.
  or maybe we could give the New Sandwich Budget to Tastebridge and they
could cater monthly cleaning parties, managed by the manager person.

On 6/29/2011 7:54 PM, Will Sargent wrote:
> 
>     The system I described above worked really well, and is a whole like
>     nicer for the community we've created as it keeps us focused in making
>     Noisebridge work on our own than throwing money to someone else to fix
>     for us.
> 
> 
> It worked really well when you were doing it.  But no-one else is doing
> it, and you got referred to as the "facilities manager."  That's gotta suck.
>  
> 
>     As much as I know we are a group of filthy hackers who still live in our
>     mom's basement, it would be nice to grow a little instead of letting
>     someone else clean up after us. Then again fuck Noisebridge, I hope the
>     hippies burn the space down with the sage they've been burning there
>     recently, it would be the easiest way to clean the space up.
> 
> 
> Cleaning is too big a problem to attack individually.  And while we
> could put people on a rotating list, in practice the place has been a
> mess for a while and that hasn't happened. 
> 
> And even if you did get a shortlist of people willing to do it, and it
> got organized and it even worked for a while -- I have with the
> "community driven by nagging" solution is that eventually, people will
> get sick of nagging and/or cleaning.  A community that's willing to
> clean up and maintain the space would be great... but that's not
> Noisebridge.  Noisebridge is made up of filthy hackers fresh out of the
> basement who have to remember the grunting sounds that mean "welcome" in
> basic human.  Noisebridge is a step up from the basement, but it's not a
> community of neat freaks.
> 
> I don't think spending money on a cleaning service is throwing money
> down the drain.  It's not like cleaning makes the community "stronger"
> in anyway, or asserts moral superiority.  It's just housecleaning.  It's
> the same problem whether members do it or people we pay do it.  If
> there's a way to get people involved and working for the community, I'd
> rather have them teaching a class or helping someone with a project --
> interacting with their peers instead of with a mop.
> 
> I think anything that can be done to get Noisebridge clean to the point
> where you can't write your name in the dust on the floor.  I'm not
> particularly fussed how we get there.  But it should be something that
> we can follow through on and implement. 
> 
> Bonus points if the space doesn't disturb or put off the (huge) number
> of people who come to Noisebridge and tell their friends about it.
> 
> Will.
> 
> 
> 
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