[Noisebridge-discuss] Self Defense

[Shannon Lee]

Jeet Kun Do was (arguably) invented in San Francisco, there are many studios
that teach it :) likewise, there are several MMA studios -- mostly "MMA"
means you'll learn Muy Thai and BJJ and then some cross-training for both of
those.  The martial arts community here is often not well-represented
online, so you may have to actually walk around in real life in order to
find this stuff.

There's a Krav studio up just off Van Ness at like California?  At least one
Noisebridger I know used to work out there...

--S

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:02 PM, seidos <kdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:

> It could be said that "Jeet Kune Do" or MMA is a self defense hack of
> whatever martial arts systems work within a particular setting or situation.
>  But i'm not aware of any place in the bay area that really teaches that.
>  The closest i can think of in terms of a particular martial school of
> thought would be Krav Magra but i'm not sure where there are any in the
> Noisebridge area.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I think that rather than focusing on whether a particular activity
>> is "hacking" or not, we talk about whether it's an appropriate use of a
>> venue which exists to serve the needs of a community of hackers; and in my
>> experience, martial arts is definitely a Hacker Interest (tho mostly as
>> something hackers *know* about, rather than something hackers *do*
>> necessarily).
>>
>> That said, there are lots of great martial arts studios in San Francisco
>> -- some of the best Kung Fu and BJJ studios in the world, in fact, and
>> quantum martial arts is nice and friendly and right up at 20th and mission
>> -- so it seems redundant to teach homespun martial arts classes unless we
>> can genuinely come up with a serious "hacker spin" -- "self defense for
>> pudgy, under-muscled software engineers" for example...
>>
>> I'd be interested in a western martial arts spin; and you can absolutely
>> tie that into hackerdom because it can double as LARP research :)
>>
>> --S
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Forrest Flanagan <
>> solenoidclock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Padding and cross training, respectively.
>>>
>>> I just think it's a stretch to say that a thing which is studied, or even
>>> improved upon, is being hacked. I don't think it's accurate to say that
>>> practicing martial arts or even practicing variants that you think would
>>> work better could be called hacking. I don't think that using software on a
>>> graphing calculator or studying abacus use is a hack for mathematics either.
>>> There may be abacus and graphing calculator hacks, respectively, but math is
>>> still math just as defense is still defense.
>>>
>>> It's a crappy argument though, and it has nothing to do with whether or
>>> not people want to learn self defense at a hackerspace.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> One could hack martial arts to be less painful or combine multiple types
>>>> of martial arts to have a non lethal hand to hand combat system.   Just
>>>> saying.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Forrest Flanagan <
>>>> solenoidclock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How is this hacking? Like is he going to teach some techniques for
>>>>> incapacitating someone with a leatherman multi-tool or something? Maybe
>>>>> point out existing flaws in various martial arts techniques?
>>>>>
>>>>> "You see officer, he tried to social engineer me out of my wallet with
>>>>> a hacked beer bottle so I penetration tested his abdomen with these here
>>>>> wire strippers"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:35 AM, seidos <kdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> is anyone interested in "self-defense" hacking?  i have a friend that
>>>>>> teaches Jujitsu, another friend that teaches Aikido, and i have had training
>>>>>> in tae kwan do and BJJ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> with metta,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seidos
>>>>>> http://accesstoinsight.org
>>>>>> http://fictionalphilosophy.org
>>>>>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos
>>>>>> http://launchpad.net/~seidos
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Shannon Lee
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>>
>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
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>
>
> --
> with metta,
>
> seidos
> http://accesstoinsight.org
> http://fictionalphilosophy.org
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos
> http://launchpad.net/~seidos
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Shannon Lee
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"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
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