[Noisebridge-discuss] Self Defense

Fri Mar 25 22:54:32 UTC 2011

Ahem.... Jeet Kun Do was invented in OAKLAND.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:

> Jeet Kun Do was (arguably) invented in San Francisco, there are many
> studios that teach it :) likewise, there are several MMA studios -- mostly
> "MMA" means you'll learn Muy Thai and BJJ and then some cross-training for
> both of those.  The martial arts community here is often not
> well-represented online, so you may have to actually walk around in real
> life in order to find this stuff.
>
> There's a Krav studio up just off Van Ness at like California?  At least
> one Noisebridger I know used to work out there...
>
> --S
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:02 PM, seidos <kdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It could be said that "Jeet Kune Do" or MMA is a self defense hack of
>> whatever martial arts systems work within a particular setting or situation.
>>  But i'm not aware of any place in the bay area that really teaches that.
>>  The closest i can think of in terms of a particular martial school of
>> thought would be Krav Magra but i'm not sure where there are any in the
>> Noisebridge area.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I think that rather than focusing on whether a particular activity
>>> is "hacking" or not, we talk about whether it's an appropriate use of a
>>> venue which exists to serve the needs of a community of hackers; and in my
>>> experience, martial arts is definitely a Hacker Interest (tho mostly as
>>> something hackers *know* about, rather than something hackers *do*
>>> necessarily).
>>>
>>> That said, there are lots of great martial arts studios in San Francisco
>>> -- some of the best Kung Fu and BJJ studios in the world, in fact, and
>>> quantum martial arts is nice and friendly and right up at 20th and mission
>>> -- so it seems redundant to teach homespun martial arts classes unless we
>>> can genuinely come up with a serious "hacker spin" -- "self defense for
>>> pudgy, under-muscled software engineers" for example...
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in a western martial arts spin; and you can absolutely
>>> tie that into hackerdom because it can double as LARP research :)
>>>
>>> --S
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Forrest Flanagan <
>>> solenoidclock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Padding and cross training, respectively.
>>>>
>>>> I just think it's a stretch to say that a thing which is studied, or
>>>> even improved upon, is being hacked. I don't think it's accurate to say that
>>>> practicing martial arts or even practicing variants that you think would
>>>> work better could be called hacking. I don't think that using software on a
>>>> graphing calculator or studying abacus use is a hack for mathematics either.
>>>> There may be abacus and graphing calculator hacks, respectively, but math is
>>>> still math just as defense is still defense.
>>>>
>>>> It's a crappy argument though, and it has nothing to do with whether or
>>>> not people want to learn self defense at a hackerspace.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One could hack martial arts to be less painful or combine multiple
>>>>> types of martial arts to have a non lethal hand to hand combat system.
>>>>> Just saying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Forrest Flanagan <
>>>>> solenoidclock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How is this hacking? Like is he going to teach some techniques for
>>>>>> incapacitating someone with a leatherman multi-tool or something? Maybe
>>>>>> point out existing flaws in various martial arts techniques?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You see officer, he tried to social engineer me out of my wallet with
>>>>>> a hacked beer bottle so I penetration tested his abdomen with these here
>>>>>> wire strippers"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:35 AM, seidos <kdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is anyone interested in "self-defense" hacking?  i have a friend that
>>>>>>> teaches Jujitsu, another friend that teaches Aikido, and i have had training
>>>>>>> in tae kwan do and BJJ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> with metta,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seidos
>>>>>>> http://accesstoinsight.org
>>>>>>> http://fictionalphilosophy.org
>>>>>>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos
>>>>>>> http://launchpad.net/~seidos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> with metta,
>>
>> seidos
>> http://accesstoinsight.org
>> http://fictionalphilosophy.org
>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos
>> http://launchpad.net/~seidos
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>
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