[Noisebridge-discuss] NoiseLand

Erik Schneider eriktrips at gmail.com
Sun Nov 20 08:04:07 UTC 2011

Oh, hey, yeah! I can teach too, if anyone is interested in things
literary, rhetorical, or critical theory-like.


On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 22:53, Brink of Complexity <brink.0x3f at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sometimes communications companies sell land with radio/cell towers and concrete bunkers and random equipment on them at the cheap, like at auction.  Sometimes they're in desirable places, sometimes not. Just a thought.
> I think ambient energy harvesting can be added to the power supply list, and while it won't produce as much juice as a crowded city, patching together many different sources of energy is probably a good way to go.
> Also, I'm dying to build some earthen houses (have studied it, but don't have land), and want a place to put my 200W 6-node compute cluster and associated self-powered mesh community/environment sensor net, but I don't have anywhere to do these things.
> Also, I have a passion for teaching astronomy (esp. navigational astronomy) to city dwellers who never get to see the stars -> and it's a great intro to chemical absorption/emission spectra -> red/blue shifts -> optics and wave mechanics -> signals analysis... which I guess the compute cluster can also come in handy for, since we can then set up some radio observatories and continuously analyze the sky ...
> Setting up the plumbing efficiently will also be useful - so that the same furnaces that heat the ovens heat the houses and also run the distillation chambers (we will have distillation chambers, right? say yes.)
> I want to play at NoiseLand, and would be happy to share in building and teaching.
> (As long as I don't get attacked and kicked out by douchebags for minding my own business while using lights.)
> - Brink
> On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Erik Schneider wrote:
>> Would you all be willing to (provisionally, prospectively) include a
>> guy who knows very few of you, even though he has been to Noisebridge
>> many times but tends to talk to his computer more than to people, and
>> who has no money at all but can do creative arts type stuff easily and
>> tech stuff with a little help? I am very interested in intentional
>> communities and this one, if it takes off, would be the only one I had
>> even a tenuous connection to. I already know that I am amenable to the
>> general values of Noisebridge as a social entity.
>> Right now I have the Occupy Cough, but I would be grateful if you
>> could include me on the mailing list. When I am no longer spewing
>> phlegm, I could even come to a meeting, if any!
>> Oh, also, when healthy, I can lift heavy things. :)
>> Erik
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:36, Liz Henry <liz at bookmaniac.org> wrote:
>>> I'm also interested in Noiseland! I've lived in several different
>>> co-operative houses, and though I didn't set any of them up, I loved
>>> working and living within them. Let's make a Noiseland mailing list to
>>> go along with the developing wiki page.
>>> - liz
>>> On 11/19/11 11:08 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>>>> I started a commune.  Yup, I did.  I learned an immense amount from
>>>> its spectacular, miserable, traumatic failures (though it is still
>>>> going on, and many people I have bumped into over the years
>>>> (including someone just last night) have told me that they have been
>>>> there, and that they loved their experiences visiting there), much of
>>>> which I put to good use in discussing and implementing ways for
>>>> Noisebridge to have much better chances of success at the ongoing
>>>> social experiment that it is (and I'm almost always amazed at how
>>>> well Noisebridge succeeds -- better than all my fantasies back before
>>>> we started). If folks interested in NoiseLand get together for a
>>>> meeting, I'd be happy to share my experiences and what I learned
>>>> along the way of starting a commune. Mitch. From:
>>>> alex.glowaski at gmail.com Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:10:52 -0800 To:
>>>> algoldor at yahoo.com CC: moped45 at gmail.com;
>>>> colin_dodsworth at hotmail.com; aaron at spaz.org;
>>>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net Subject: Re:
>>>> [Noisebridge-discuss] NoiseLand
>>>> I'd add goal #12 - in order to make it more self-supporting, choose a
>>>> craft (or several) that can be easily taught, manufactured on-site,
>>>> and exported.
>>>>> From reading the wiki, it looks we're expecting a monetary return
>>>>> (to "garnish" in order to pay back initial donors). For centuries,
>>>>> monks have been paying for imported goods this way, and modern
>>>>> intentional communities have picked up on it... One is mentioned
>>>>> already in the wiki, and I know of another (Twin Oaks) that
>>>>> supported itself in part by selling handmade hammocks to Pier One.
>>>>> The Shakers and the Amish also do this.
>>>> What can we sell? Repairs? Boats? Specially-designed LED lighting?
>>>> Something reasonably interesting and easy, which is desirable and in
>>>> line with progressive values. I suggest producing sustainable solar,
>>>> wind, and human-powered energy sources. It sounds like solar energy
>>>> is of interest, and it's widely seen as exceesively expensive, so we
>>>> could start by producing fairly low-cost "plug and play" units. We
>>>> could also make bike generators - a longtime interest of mine, though
>>>> I have no idea where to get started. Very useful for people to learn,
>>>> great to own, and we could easily get donated bikes (regular and
>>>> stationary-exercise types), as well as possibly motors of various
>>>> types. Newbies can easily help out with one, then more steps of the
>>>> process, as they learn about electricity and welding. All these
>>>> products are also great to have around in a secluded spot, and
>>>> completely quiet - except for the grunting of bicyclists... Of
>>>> course, the difficulty is exporting them - but that mainly applies to
>>>> the bike generators. Perhaps we could produce kits.
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>>> ------------------------
>>> Liz Henry
>>> liz at bookmaniac.org
>>> http://bookmaniac.org
>>> "Without models, it's hard to work; without a context, difficult to
>>> evaluate; without peers, nearly impossible to speak." -- Joanna Russ
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>> decolonize!
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