[Noisebridge-discuss] Hacker in Afghanistan

[Mike Schachter]

Soldiers wouldn't have guns to fight with if we didn't
allow our government to arm them in the first place.

  mike


On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com> wrote:
> If soldiers didn't fight, there wouldn't be a war.
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Mike Schachter <mike at mindmech.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jake, just to be clear, I don't have a problem with most of
>> what you said, but there's this other side where people have
>> friends and family that are in the military and are pretty invested
>> in keeping their morale up and ultimately in their survival.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with not wanting to contribute to the war
>> in any way... but it's hard to do that when people you care
>> about are over there. And if you look at demographics, the troops
>> on the ground are far from a privileged class, and deserve at
>> least some acknowledgement that they're there; because as
>> a whole, our nation is apparently not concerned enough with
>> the war to force an end to it. We're the problem Jake, not the
>> soldiers.
>>
>>  mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> > gee thanks, i wish you would have said that onto the list, i'm getting
>> > crucified over here, for suggesting that people should refuse to help
>> > kill
>> > people in other countries.
>> >
>> > -jake
>> >
>> > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Jack Perkins wrote:
>> >
>> >> While I don't know if I would have said what you said on the list,
>> >> it's nice to hear someone saying it. Duncan's reply is the sort of
>> >> bizarrely split rhetoric that you find so commonly here. People who
>> >> believe the war is bad and generally wrong but continue support every
>> >> action inside of it blindly.
>> >>
>> >> -Jack
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Will he be helping kill people out there?  I understand that the US
>> >>> military has killed a lot of people in Afghanistan so far, and they
>> >>> have
>> >>> shown no signs of ceasing to kill people.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think killing people is very un-excellent.  I would never send
>> >>> sunflower
>> >>> seeds to someone who was killing people, or helping to kill people.  I
>> >>> would certainly want to send sunflower seeds to someone who refused to
>> >>> help kill people, like Bradley Manning did.  If your friend ends up
>> >>> like
>> >>> Bradley Manning I will certainly apologize for having prejudged him.
>> >>>
>> >>> The US government is spending $118,600,000,000.00 on the Afghanistan
>> >>> war
>> >>> this year, I would think there would be enough money in that to buy
>> >>> sunflower seeds and gatorade packets.  If it were up to me, i would
>> >>> end
>> >>> the war in Afghanistan and spend the money on hiring teachers and
>> >>> bailing
>> >>> out mortgages.  I think most people agree with me, but unfortunately
>> >>> politicians continue to do what they want, and (most) soldiers
>> >>> continue
>> >>> to
>> >>> do what they're told.
>> >>>
>> >>> -jake
>> >>>
>> >>> Carl Sue theabcasian at gmail.com wrote:
>> >>> Sat Oct 29 18:27:17 PDT 2011
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Guys, we have a fellow hacker in Afghanistan who's about to go to
>> >>> a
>> >>> foreword operating base in two weeks. I'm guessing its pretty bad for
>> >>> him
>> >>> out there and I hear the FOB has no showers or hot food. I thought it
>> >>> would be nice to send him a care package (or a few) to let him know he
>> >>> has
>> >>> community waiting for him to come back. If you want to participate I
>> >>> think
>> >>> wesley is sending something or you can use his address:
>> >>>
>> >>> LCpl Pacer, Matthew J
>> >>>
>> >>> RCT-5 DET A UNIT 40306
>> >>>
>> >>> FPO AP 96427-0306
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> his current needs include foot powder, slim jims, sunflower seeds...
>> >>> any
>> >>> food that will last 2+ months, DRINK MIXES like those crystal light or
>> >>> gatorade packets he also likes arduino and will have a soldering iron
>> >>> at
>> >>> the FOB.
>> >>>
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