[Noisebridge-discuss] Hacker in Afghanistan

[Rameen]

If soldiers didn't fight, there wouldn't be a war.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Mike Schachter <mike at mindmech.com> wrote:

> Hey Jake, just to be clear, I don't have a problem with most of
> what you said, but there's this other side where people have
> friends and family that are in the military and are pretty invested
> in keeping their morale up and ultimately in their survival.
>
> There's nothing wrong with not wanting to contribute to the war
> in any way... but it's hard to do that when people you care
> about are over there. And if you look at demographics, the troops
> on the ground are far from a privileged class, and deserve at
> least some acknowledgement that they're there; because as
> a whole, our nation is apparently not concerned enough with
> the war to force an end to it. We're the problem Jake, not the
> soldiers.
>
>  mike
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> > gee thanks, i wish you would have said that onto the list, i'm getting
> > crucified over here, for suggesting that people should refuse to help
> kill
> > people in other countries.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Jack Perkins wrote:
> >
> >> While I don't know if I would have said what you said on the list,
> >> it's nice to hear someone saying it. Duncan's reply is the sort of
> >> bizarrely split rhetoric that you find so commonly here. People who
> >> believe the war is bad and generally wrong but continue support every
> >> action inside of it blindly.
> >>
> >> -Jack
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will he be helping kill people out there?  I understand that the US
> >>> military has killed a lot of people in Afghanistan so far, and they
> have
> >>> shown no signs of ceasing to kill people.
> >>>
> >>> I think killing people is very un-excellent.  I would never send
> >>> sunflower
> >>> seeds to someone who was killing people, or helping to kill people.  I
> >>> would certainly want to send sunflower seeds to someone who refused to
> >>> help kill people, like Bradley Manning did.  If your friend ends up
> like
> >>> Bradley Manning I will certainly apologize for having prejudged him.
> >>>
> >>> The US government is spending $118,600,000,000.00 on the Afghanistan
> war
> >>> this year, I would think there would be enough money in that to buy
> >>> sunflower seeds and gatorade packets.  If it were up to me, i would end
> >>> the war in Afghanistan and spend the money on hiring teachers and
> bailing
> >>> out mortgages.  I think most people agree with me, but unfortunately
> >>> politicians continue to do what they want, and (most) soldiers continue
> >>> to
> >>> do what they're told.
> >>>
> >>> -jake
> >>>
> >>> Carl Sue theabcasian at gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Sat Oct 29 18:27:17 PDT 2011
> >>>
> >>> Hey Guys, we have a fellow hacker in Afghanistan who's about to go to a
> >>> foreword operating base in two weeks. I'm guessing its pretty bad for
> him
> >>> out there and I hear the FOB has no showers or hot food. I thought it
> >>> would be nice to send him a care package (or a few) to let him know he
> >>> has
> >>> community waiting for him to come back. If you want to participate I
> >>> think
> >>> wesley is sending something or you can use his address:
> >>>
> >>> LCpl Pacer, Matthew J
> >>>
> >>> RCT-5 DET A UNIT 40306
> >>>
> >>> FPO AP 96427-0306
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> his current needs include foot powder, slim jims, sunflower seeds...
> any
> >>> food that will last 2+ months, DRINK MIXES like those crystal light or
> >>> gatorade packets he also likes arduino and will have a soldering iron
> at
> >>> the FOB.
> >>>
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