[Noisebridge-discuss] missing IBM model M keyboard from my shelf

[Jonathan Foote]

s/firewall/services that I trust the security of/

I don't trust the physical security at NB. Maybe that assertion is not
true for you; it is for me and apparently others as well. Where's the
contradiction?


On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:49:10AM -0700, Jonathan Foote wrote:
>> I still don't understand why folks who know better than to connect a
>> valuable resource to the internet without a firewall
>
> ... actually, that is not true ...
>
>> still have no problem with a wide open space at 18th & Mission.
>
> ... and your putative contradiction is also false.
>
> The machines I use on a regular basis -- and am very confident in the
> security of -- are all connected directly to the Internet, no firewalls
> necessary.
>
> I'm careful to run services that I trust the security of.
> (Equivalently, I use Noisebridge in ways that are not generally
> vulnerable to its failure modes).
>
> I offer services to the Internet in ways that I am conscious are
> possible to abuse.  (Equivalently, I donate time, effort, and materiel
> to Noisebridge conscious of the fact that my donation may be abused,
> destroyed, stolen, used to create art I find distasteful, or otherwise
> misused.)  Sometimes I get burned by abusers of the services I offer
> freely.  Mostly it's a net positive, though.
>
>
> I agree that Noisebridge has a problem as it currently stands; it sounds
> like a lot of cool stuff has disappeared lately, more so than
> previously.  But please don't argue from false assertions to advance
> your argument. :)
>
> -andy
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