[Noisebridge-discuss] Tomorrow night's meeting [Oh you know if it's me it's drama]

Tue Apr 10 07:04:29 UTC 2012

CHANGE OF PLANS!

I just realized that when Kelly emailed to this thread a light-bulb popped
up in my head.
I am going to communicate via Skype!! Problem solved, I will get to say my
piece and NOT have to set foot on the premises of Noisebridge. But I am not
going to keep silent about Robert being allowed into the space after he
drunkenly tried to STAB people immediately outside of the space a month
prior to my incident and yet NOTHING happened to him. I know this to be
true because he HIMSELF told me that he did that!!! NOTHING has happened to
him but he's still managing to be there bitching about improper projector
usage and accusing me of stealing $100, WHICH I NEVER DID!! I'm aware it
has already been settled but REALLY?! I don't have to put up with his shit
anymore. There is no way I am going to keep hush hush about this, no way,
no how. Done as in DONE!!!

-Justin Patrick Doerr

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am with Kelly here.  It was specifically agreed that you would not
> return AT ALL, to noisebridge, until mediation was completed.  It has not.
>  If you return, it most likely could be construed as trespassing.  If you
> are going against that agreement, you might also be instantly eligible for
> an actual ban, since you seem to be unable to satisfactorily complete
> mediation.  Not that I am a member or have any particular power but I beg
> you, please reconsider showing up until mediation has been completed.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> Tom is out of town and unable to act as mediator in person. I will be
>> standing in as his proxy at the upcoming meeting.
>>
>> You made an agreement with the group that you would not return to the
>> space without completing some form of mediation satisfactorily. If you
>> want to start that, you can contact me off-list. If you show up at the
>> space tomorrow (there's no way we can complete mediation in 24 hours)
>> that would be very disrespectful, and I don't think people would
>> respond well.
>>
>> -Kelly
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 22:17, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Oh and for the record, now I'm very upset.
>> > I am putting my foot down and I'm letting everyone know once again that
>> I am
>> > coming to this meeting to speak out and say what it is that I need to
>> say,
>> > come hell or high water. I have a right to defend myself goddammit and
>> I'm
>> > not going to let some little pipsqueaks try and get in my way.
>> > YES I want to go through the mediation process. NO I don't want to wait
>> > around until Robert wants to. My heart f***ing bleeds.. It's going to
>> begin
>> > tomorrow and its going to be hasty... outside of NB and in America, I
>> would
>> > have a right to a speedy trial. I'm f***ing DONE with this bull****.
>> Over it
>> > times a million!!!
>> >
>> > - Justin Patrick Doerr
>> >
>> > On Apr 9, 2012 9:58 PM, "Justin Doerr" <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OK fine Matt, I will indent when a new paragraph needs to be formed.
>> >> Jesus, enough with being a grammar Nazi!!
>> >>
>> >> And yes I'll reread your email if it makes you happy. I am well aware
>> of
>> >> what I'm doing. I've got a lot of emotional support from friends for
>> making
>> >> my decision to go about doing this.
>> >>
>> >> And Nick you're the one contributing to the drama by threatening to get
>> >> the police involved. You brought that upon yourself. My sentiments
>> still
>> >> remain unswayed.
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 9, 2012 9:40 PM, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Refer to my previous email.  Please.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Nick, first off STFU, Robert tried to stab people with a knife when
>> he
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > in a position where he was as drunk as I was, if I recall you were
>> >>> > there for
>> >>> > that situation....I don't see why you're defending him when you are
>> >>> > aware
>> >>> > that THAT happened as well. I'm not interested in trying to cause
>> >>> > drama, I'm
>> >>> > just going to the meeting to voice my opinion and leave immediately
>> >>> > after.
>> >>> > THAT IS attempted murder, which according to my friend who works at
>> the
>> >>> > DAs
>> >>> > office of San Francisco, is what attempting to stab someone is. And
>> to
>> >>> > me
>> >>> > trying to stab someone is far more heinous of a crime in my book
>> than
>> >>> > spitting on someone. I've already told him if he doesn't feel
>> >>> > comfortable
>> >>> > then he CAN LEAVE, as can you!! Get the police involved. See what
>> >>> > happens.
>> >>> > I'll willingly press charges on him as well, because at this point I
>> >>> > don't
>> >>> > care!! According to my friend who works for the DA of San Francisco,
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > worst that will happen to me is I'll get a slap on the wrist,
>> whereas
>> >>> > he
>> >>> > could face incarceration ESPECIALLY considering I have proof from an
>> >>> > anonymous person who witnessed that he did that. In fact, I'll call
>> the
>> >>> > police before you even get a chance to tomorrow night before the
>> >>> > meeting and
>> >>> > I'll have them escort me into the building if I have to. I don't
>> want
>> >>> > things
>> >>> > to get ugly and I don't want to get the police involved in this at
>> ALL,
>> >>> > especially considering that's not the ONLY thing I have that I can
>> use
>> >>> > against Robert. BUT GO AHEAD Be a punk, see what happens when you
>> do.
>> >>> > Same
>> >>> > thing can be said to Robert, be a punk. See what happens.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Apr 9, 2012 8:44 PM, "Nicholas Granado" <ngranado at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> hi justin,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> this should be really simple. YOU SPIT ON SOMEONE. that is nasty
>> and
>> >>> >> offensive. why would anyone want to participate in a community
>> where
>> >>> >> people
>> >>> >> could possibly SPIT on you. you should be banned from the space.
>> this
>> >>> >> should
>> >>> >> not even be up for debate. it is a travesty that it is up for
>> debate.
>> >>> >> if i
>> >>> >> see you in the space (without the mediation being completed or
>> granted
>> >>> >> permission otherwise) when i'm there i will call the police and
>> make
>> >>> >> sure
>> >>> >> you leave.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> nick
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Gavin Knight <gnnrok at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> As I remember, it was discussed that you would finish mediation
>> >>> >>> before
>> >>> >>> trying to
>> >>> >>> come back to the meetings.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I trust that, although you would like to share your thoughts about
>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >>> events, you realize that
>> >>> >>> this situation is between you and Robert, and rehashing this in a
>> >>> >>> noisebridge does not solve
>> >>> >>> the dispute.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Maybe alternatively you could schedule the mediation before or
>> after
>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >>> meeting, and figure
>> >>> >>> out a solution that way.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> -Gavin
>> >>> >>>
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> Ronald Cotoni
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