[Noisebridge-discuss] let's get a TIG welder

[Ever Falling]

>  yeah while we're at it, let's put down a metal plate under all the
soldering irons, because they get hot too.

are you actually comparing soldering irons to welding machines?

> TIG welding does not throw off hot bits of red-hot metal like MIG or
stick welding.

You're right but it still has the potential to produce red hot metal slag
if you're using it to remove material.

>  yes, it's true that people should not weld galvanized metal or chrome.
People should also not hold their soldering iron by the wrong end (if it
smells like chicken, you're holding it wrong) or aim one of our many
propane torches at the piles of wood we have stacked up, while they're
using it for soldering.

You're either really dumb or acting dumb on purpose. Not everyone knows
that welding galvanized metal or chromed metal gives off harmful fumes
though i think it's pretty obvious you don't hold the hot part of anything
like the end of a soldering iron or point flames towards flammable material
if you don't want to purposely set it on fire. Seriously you're acting
really childish at this point. If you wanna install this in your house with
no safety measures then by all means go ahead but if it's going to be in a
space that caters to dozens of people on property that we don't own then we
should probably look into some safety precautions. I'm sorry we're forcing
the budget for this suggestion beyond the initial $400 but tools like
welders tend to do that.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> yeah while we're at it, let's put down a metal plate under all the
> soldering irons, because they get hot too.
>
> TIG welding does not throw off hot bits of red-hot metal like MIG or stick
> welding.
>
> OMG!  this guy is going to catch his shirt on fire!  just kidding.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=iC2DG8jVp_M&feature=player_**
> detailpage#t=106s<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC2DG8jVp_M&feature=player_detailpage#t=106s>
>
> by the way, the smoke coming off of his work is the thin layer of wax that
> comes with brand-new metal, to keep it from rusting on the shelf. Obviously
> we will have ventilation but the smoke doesn't seem to be any worse than
> the fumes from SOLDERING which we do all the time.
>
> yes, it's true that people should not weld galvanized metal or chrome.
> People should also not hold their soldering iron by the wrong end (if it
> smells like chicken, you're holding it wrong) or aim one of our many
> propane torches at the piles of wood we have stacked up, while they're
> using it for soldering.
>
> please people, this is TIG welding not some crazy firethrowing machine.
>
> The following is MIG welding, which I am NOT suggesting for noisebridge
> (although apparently it works fine at AMT, which is also made of and full
> of wood)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=sMdQT-eswYY&feature=player_**
> detailpage#t=775s<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMdQT-eswYY&feature=player_detailpage#t=775s>
>
> -jake
>
>
>
> Ever Falling wrote:
> Matt has a point. At the very least you'd need to put down a metal plate
> or something to cover the wood (maybe we could coat the floor in the shop
> with an epoxy?) because with almost all welding you're gonna get sparks and
> slag coming off your piece. Also fumes, not from the shielding gas, but
> from the metal being worked on is a legitimate concern. You just might
> wanna look up which metals we should disallow from welding like galvanized
> metal or chromed steel. I don't think we gotta be OSHA compliant or
> anything but safety is something we should take seriously with a piece of
> equipment like this.
>
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