[Noisebridge-discuss] New furniture

Andrew Byrne andrew at pachakutech.com
Thu Dec 6 20:38:58 UTC 2012


Sometimes it's fun to be a bitch, but amyl nitrate is hard to come by.

Still looking for those big pieces of wood; will be up in the Presidio
today, so maybe I'll get lucky.
=]
-AnB


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had one more thing to add, after reading more of this thread:
>
> *Are you kidding? I love bitches!* One of my personalities is a total
> Joan Crawford, ice-cold bitch on rollerblades. My other personalities hate
> her.
>
> It's a good thing I'll never have children.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had not seen or read the apology message before I posted my message.
>> I've been too busy to read most of the posts lately, but I skim them to
>> keep a handle on what's going on at least. I saw something that made me
>> react & didn't have or take the time to read exhaustively through the
>> thread. I apologize if my response seemed "aggro," it was intended as
>> criticism but not a full-frontal attack & certainly not a troll post;
>> actually I made an effort to end it on a positive, forward-moving note. I
>> will try to be more exhaustive in reading before responding in future.
>>
>> +11+
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Brian Cloutier <
>> briancloutier2010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> >I think you owe him (and Josh) an apology for the unqualified harshness
>>>
>>> >You are overreacting.
>>>
>>> You guys do realize she said sorry right?
>>>
>>> > Maybe you will all love this, as I will now make an example of my own
>>> cognitive fallacies, instead of someone else's. [...] I just reread my
>>> exchange with josh and while I called him out for challenging my statements
>>> rather than querying them, [...]. The wording is, in fact, a query.
>>>
>>> "After some review, it turns out that I was wrong"
>>>
>>> >  How much of that set of my assumptions come from my knowledge of josh
>>> and past interactions with him? How much is rooted in other experiences I
>>> have had?  In this case especially I am not really sure.
>>>
>>> "We've been dicks to each other in the past, so I made a rash judgement
>>> and assumed that pattern was continuing"
>>>
>>> > We are a sort of organic computer that constructs algorithms based on
>>> data of interactions. If everyone bases their reactions to each other on
>>> past experiences then there is some necessary noise in the system.
>>>
>>> "We are all human, and we all mistakes"
>>>
>>> > but what about for all those crazy feminist bitches who flip out every
>>> time you interrupt them?
>>>
>>> "Again my bad, I overreacted."
>>>
>>> > How do you deal with the ways that people act and react, especially
>>> when they are different than what you might be wanting? I deal with it by
>>> trying to imagine what their motivations are, [...]
>>>
>>> "Usually I do try to be empathetic."
>>>
>>> > Sometimes I make false conclusions based on my own preconceptions or
>>> situation. [...]  One thing I like about the
>>> metacognitive-neurolinguistic-social-interaction field of study is that it
>>> begins by acknowledging this.
>>>
>>> "However this time I really messed up, and I realize that"
>>>
>>>
>>> This is actually a pretty damn good apology. Instead of just saying "I'm
>>> sorry" Rachel is saying what went wrong, why it happened, and by
>>> referencing science implicitly stating she'll try to do better in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> So... can we back off?
>>>
>>> - Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:04 PM, John Withers <jwithers at reddagger.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love how anytime anyone disagrees with you going off on people, you
>>>> can never be wrong because anyone pointing out that you go over the top
>>>> agro on people who intended no harm, they are evil oppressors.
>>>>
>>>> It's win win and possibly one of the most brilliant perma-troll tactics
>>>> I have ever seen. Very nice work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:03 -0500, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I found this article by searching "calling out oppression" and
>>>> > "over-reacting".
>>>> > http://ab-wg.blogspot.com/2009/01/role-of-allies.html?m=1
>>>> > Maybe I should make a chart of boringly predictable oblivous
>>>> > responses, or a robot like lmgtfy that deflects blacklisted emails
>>>> > using their adjectives as search terms.
>>>> >
>>>> > Because there are just so many goshdarned people playing out the same
>>>> > predictable social dynamics that there are in fact rote predictable
>>>> > responses to these discussions.
>>>>
>>>>
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>> *You should read my diaries after I die—I talk about you a lot in there.*
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