[Noisebridge-discuss] New furniture

Fri Dec 7 19:30:52 UTC 2012

Wow, thanks! I'm new here, so I'm not too familiar with the salvage depots;
back in Baltimore, they knew me by name. I don't have a truck yet, so maybe
I'll look on craigslist and ask around my social circles. If someone has a
lead on ways to transport large heavy objects across the bay, I'm all ears.
best
-AnB

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:05 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> Building resources in sf and urban ore in east bay sell big hunks of wood,
> if you wanted to go that route. The Reuse People in Alameda do
> deconstruction rather than taking donations, so they tend to have even
> larger-scale stuff, as well as lots more unused construction overages.
>
> R.
> On Dec 6, 2012 12:39 PM, "Andrew Byrne" <andrew at pachakutech.com> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes it's fun to be a bitch, but amyl nitrate is hard to come by.
>>
>> Still looking for those big pieces of wood; will be up in the Presidio
>> today, so maybe I'll get lucky.
>> =]
>> -AnB
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
>> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had one more thing to add, after reading more of this thread:
>>>
>>> *Are you kidding? I love bitches!* One of my personalities is a total
>>> Joan Crawford, ice-cold bitch on rollerblades. My other personalities hate
>>> her.
>>>
>>> It's a good thing I'll never have children.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
>>> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had not seen or read the apology message before I posted my message.
>>>> I've been too busy to read most of the posts lately, but I skim them to
>>>> keep a handle on what's going on at least. I saw something that made me
>>>> react & didn't have or take the time to read exhaustively through the
>>>> thread. I apologize if my response seemed "aggro," it was intended as
>>>> criticism but not a full-frontal attack & certainly not a troll post;
>>>> actually I made an effort to end it on a positive, forward-moving note. I
>>>> will try to be more exhaustive in reading before responding in future.
>>>>
>>>> +11+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Brian Cloutier <
>>>> briancloutier2010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >I think you owe him (and Josh) an apology for the unqualified
>>>>> harshness
>>>>>
>>>>> >You are overreacting.
>>>>>
>>>>> You guys do realize she said sorry right?
>>>>>
>>>>> > Maybe you will all love this, as I will now make an example of my
>>>>> own cognitive fallacies, instead of someone else's. [...] I just
>>>>> reread my exchange with josh and while I called him out for challenging my
>>>>> statements rather than querying them, [...]. The wording is, in fact, a
>>>>> query.
>>>>>
>>>>> "After some review, it turns out that I was wrong"
>>>>>
>>>>> >  How much of that set of my assumptions come from my knowledge of
>>>>> josh and past interactions with him? How much is rooted in other
>>>>> experiences I have had?  In this case especially I am not really sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We've been dicks to each other in the past, so I made a rash
>>>>> judgement and assumed that pattern was continuing"
>>>>>
>>>>> > We are a sort of organic computer that constructs algorithms based
>>>>> on data of interactions. If everyone bases their reactions to each other on
>>>>> past experiences then there is some necessary noise in the system.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We are all human, and we all mistakes"
>>>>>
>>>>> > but what about for all those crazy feminist bitches who flip out
>>>>> every time you interrupt them?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Again my bad, I overreacted."
>>>>>
>>>>> > How do you deal with the ways that people act and react, especially
>>>>> when they are different than what you might be wanting? I deal with it by
>>>>> trying to imagine what their motivations are, [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> "Usually I do try to be empathetic."
>>>>>
>>>>> > Sometimes I make false conclusions based on my own preconceptions or
>>>>> situation. [...]  One thing I like about the
>>>>> metacognitive-neurolinguistic-social-interaction field of study is that it
>>>>> begins by acknowledging this.
>>>>>
>>>>> "However this time I really messed up, and I realize that"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is actually a pretty damn good apology. Instead of just saying
>>>>> "I'm sorry" Rachel is saying what went wrong, why it happened, and by
>>>>> referencing science implicitly stating she'll try to do better in the
>>>>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> So... can we back off?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:04 PM, John Withers <jwithers at reddagger.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I love how anytime anyone disagrees with you going off on people, you
>>>>>> can never be wrong because anyone pointing out that you go over the
>>>>>> top
>>>>>> agro on people who intended no harm, they are evil oppressors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's win win and possibly one of the most brilliant perma-troll
>>>>>> tactics
>>>>>> I have ever seen. Very nice work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:03 -0500, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I found this article by searching "calling out oppression" and
>>>>>> > "over-reacting".
>>>>>> > http://ab-wg.blogspot.com/2009/01/role-of-allies.html?m=1
>>>>>> > Maybe I should make a chart of boringly predictable oblivous
>>>>>> > responses, or a robot like lmgtfy that deflects blacklisted emails
>>>>>> > using their adjectives as search terms.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Because there are just so many goshdarned people playing out the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> > predictable social dynamics that there are in fact rote predictable
>>>>>> > responses to these discussions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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