[Noisebridge-discuss] A modest proposal.

John Ellis neurofog at gmail.com
Sun Feb 12 23:04:48 UTC 2012

The problem is that people haven't accurately defined exactly what they are
trying to remove/keep-out other than extreme examples such as being high on
crystal-meth or complete drunken assholes. I wasn't there when the most the
recent person came into the space supposedly high on meth and threatened
people, but I wouldn't object to removing him on that basis, although my
previous interactions with him didn't cross into the 'remove' category.

Is there a litmus test on who is worthy of entry, without resorting to
stupidity such as requiring a working knowledge of hexadecimal notation.

Speaking hypothetically, if Andrew Morton or Linus Torvalds came in and
crashed on the couch, would people object? What if Jacob Appelbaum
hypothetically came in and crashed on the couch, would people object?


On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>wrote:

> On 02/09/2012 01:38 AM, Matt Joyce wrote:
> > Problem:  Noisebridge has some security / personal safety issues.
> >
> > Definition of problem:  In what seems to be an escalating series of
> > conflicts, many paying members and contributing community members have
> > become concerned about their own safety.  In addition to that
> > fundamental concern there is the more grandiose concern that the
> > culture of Noisebridge and its community is suffering.
> >
> > Requirements to address problem:
> >
> > Members of noisebridge must feel safe at noisebridge.
> >
> > The culture of noisebridge with a specific eye towards the universal
> > openness and acceptance of people in it's mission to share knowledge
> > and expertise must be preserved.
> >
> > Solution Proposal:
> >
> > Close noisebridge at 11pm PST every weekday and close at midnight on
> > Friday and Saturday evenings.
> >
> > And I mean universally closed.  No exclusions and no exceptions.  Like
> > last call at a bar.  You can always go home but you can't stay here.
> >
> > Results:
> >
> > No more crazy vagrants show up in the late hours to prey upon folks.
> > No more crashing at noisebridge by homeless jerkfaces who like to ruin
> > a good thing for everyone.
> > No more drunks showing up to annoy people.
> > No more risk of getting jacked up on your way to the bart / bus / bike
> > / hanglider... etc because the sun is not around.
> > No impact on the open nature of the space, as when the space is
> > available all are welcome.
> >
> >
> I'd like to suggest that this does not solve the problem you have
> outlined. Perhaps, if anything, it may limit the scope of the problem
> but that's not even a certainty. Limiting access to the space will
> almost certainly impact the community but I'm unconvinced it will be a
> positive impact.
> All the best,
> Jake
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