[Noisebridge-discuss] Upstairs door latch mechanism?

Tue Feb 14 20:00:31 UTC 2012

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On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:56, Tom L <lists at flamsmark.com> wrote:

> Do not let someone into Noisebridge unless you are comfortable taking responsibility for their actions. This means that you should only let in someone you know and trust, unless you are willing to take the time to introduce yourself to them and them to Noisebridge, give them a tour, and teach them about our ways.
> 
> Anyone is welcome to become part of the Noisebridge community. This does not mean that everyone is welcome to come in at any time and do any thing, especially if their actions make the space less hospitable for others. There are some obvious sorts of actions that are unacceptable in any social space but few people act like that, and they are swiftly removed. The more general source of entropy is folks who aren't sufficiently introduced to Noisebridge, and don't understand what we're for.
> 
> We're open to any people who want to become part of our distinct micro society, but if you don't want to become part of Noisebridge's society, you are not welcome to continue using Noisebridge. The fact that many newcomers don't know this and aren't aware of our norms and decision-making processes is our fault. It's our fault for blindly pushing the buzzer and inviting people in without word or comment, giving the impression that Noisebridge is a place come and go as you please, and do what you want, without obligation.
> 
> This is not about trying to classify people into certain categories of desirable and undesirable based on how they look, it's about asking everyone to Be Excellent. Excellence is not a low bar; it is not merely the absence of living at Noisebridge, and resisting the ongoing urge to harm your fellow hacker. Excellence is treating Noisebridge as something to be treasured, working to be part of our community, and doing great things here.
> 
> If you silently open the door without teaching a newcomer how much you care for Noisebridge, and how incredibly important to you personally it it that they Be Excellent here, you are harming Noisebridge, and that is not Excellent, it's far, far from it.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:52 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> 
>    It seems you're presuming things about persons using
> the buzzer. How many people who use the buzzer should be
> let in? Seems like "most", to me, based on the people
> I've seen come in that way.
> 
>    How many people shouldn't? How can anyone say? Who
> knows who might "come around" to a hacker's head?
>    And if they don't? What's bad?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 17:12 -0800, Jake wrote:
> > This is exactly why it's easier to turn someone away by not buzzing the
> > gate open, than it is to let them in and come all the way up the stairs
> > and then try to turn them back.
> >
> > If someone presses the button at the gate and nothing happens, they have
> > no one to be mad at, and they have not already gone up two flights of
> > stairs toward their destination.  No big deal, they will proceed to some
> > other place to hang out.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > David Estes wrote:
> > > Right, and I am decidedly /not/ a big guy. Imagine me trying to have
> > > that conversation, but on the street outside the gate. I don't think it
> > > would have gone well.
> >
> > Rachel Lyra wrote:
> > I've done this, at 3am. someone sort of followed me there from a party
> > (incidentally one where they had to eject one of our homeless residents
> > for drunkenness).  I'm a smallish female, although i usually wear baggy
> > clothes and boots.  It wasn't fun but it worked out ok.  I'm pretty
> > assertive though.
> >
> > Since our constituency of preferred users includes many people who would
> > be uncomfortable with this type of confrontation, we probably want to
> > help deal with that!  I think that the more complicated it looks to get
> > in, the easier it would be to tell a person trying to follow you in that
> > they are not authorized for entry.  By creating a ridiculous rube
> > goldberg of Entry we can create a Flying Spaghetti Monster type
> > authority to appeal to when denying someone entry.  THE SCIENCE-DEITIES
> > OF ENTRY DENY YOU! I AM BUT THEIR HUMBLE SERVANT!
> >
> > R.
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