[Noisebridge-discuss] tubs versus walls for member shelves

Shannon Lee shannon at scatter.com
Thu Feb 16 01:49:45 UTC 2012

This solution doesn't solve any of the problems:  it doesn't make them less
visually cluttered, it doesn't make them harder to browse, and it doesn't
make them easier to move.

Also, probably half our shelves or more are being occupied by people who
are not really doing anything with the stuff on the shelf.  If these were
bins, we could easily move unused bins to a backstock area (say, high
shelves up on the walls) and save easily-accessed space for those of us who
use a lot of bins.

If you go look at the bins currently in use on our member shelves, the vast
majority are broken in some way; I think rugged bins is a must for the
high-impact Noisebridge environment.


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> As someone who has a lot of crap on my member shelf (which i intend to
> reduce) i want to point out that the use of cubbies is a fail, in the
> sense that we will be losing 20% of our potential storage volume for these
> things.
> those particular cubbies are designed to be rugged (for moving stuff in
> cross-country semi trucks) and to be stackable, tall, without falling
> over.
> There are cubbies available which are much thinner-walled and have less
> draft angle, so you get more space.
> But a better solution would be for people to install thin flat material to
> their shelves, turning the entire shelf into a tray.
> What happens when you put stuff on a flat surface, with nothing at the
> edge but a precipice?  STUFF FALLS OFF!!!!!!
> I think you should save your hundreds of dollars and instead pay yourself
> to attach thin flat material to all the shelves, to make them more into
> enclosures than elevated flat platforms.
> They can even be fully enclosed!  the shelves provide the structure!
> also, my friend had a tub as his shelf (his entire project was inside the
> tub) and the tub was found by me the other day NEXT TO THE EWASTE BIN.  It
> no longer had his name on it (the paper tag had somehow come off?) but it
> was obviously someone's stuff.  I put it back on a shelf.
> Tubs can move around!  Shelves (with enclosing walls) won't!!!!!
> -jake
> Shannon Lee wrote:
> we ought to buy 80 of these:  http://is.gd/UCQIsE
> then everybody gets a bin; the bins are lockable; and we can move things
> around without mixing up everybody's stuff and making a mess.
> I have a couple of hundred bucks to put into a "get us some bins" project.
> --S
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