[Noisebridge-discuss] Hardware donation?

Tue Jan 3 19:38:40 UTC 2012

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>    please restate to clarify. Seems you believe old hardware
> should never be recycled, but the balance of what you've
> written seems unclear. i'd like to know what you mean by the
> remainder of your response.

I need to clarify for myself what recycling is. I don't actually know. 
When an item is "recycled" I assume it means all materials that can be 
repurposed are stripped of the unit in question. I read an article some 
time ago that stated the PC "recycling" market actually shipped really 
toxic components to China where they were improperly disposed of in some 
grossly unsafe way.

What I would like to know is what components are you referring to as well? 
If I had a stack of crt imacs and one had an inverter connected to the 
power supply fail then 1. I'm sure the parts could be taken from another 
imac with something else broken to bring the machine back online. 2. If I 
only had one, would it be worth it in any sense to repair?

I apologize for being unclear. That occurs often but less often than in 
the past. It may continue to happen but it will always continue to be less 
often than in the past.

A good example of hardware I would like to collect are education sector 
throwaways. When I worked for a college every semester rooms full of Dells 
or Macs would be yanked and replaced. They were donated to a non-profit 
and I never knew their final destination. If one had 25 or 50 or 100 of 
the same machines if parts failed then the components could be combined as 
the total number declined by cannabalizing the units to keep the others 
running. Purchasing components from manufacturers was not a part of what I 
imagined when I posted.

My original post was inconsistent and not fully thought out but the 
sentiment remains. For myself what needs to happen is an act of mental 
brevity and clarity about things I only have a "feeling" or intention 
about.

The points above were what motivated my original post. I hope that helps.

Ben

>    one problem with keeping old hardware is replacement of
> components as they fail; after maturity, the industry does
> not manufactured components perceived as obsolete and fewer
> and fewer point of purchase businesses have old components
> in stock for sale.
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> On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 07:13 +0000, Ben M wrote:
>> I'm not sure old hardware should ever ever be "recycled" after watching
>> this talk I did not hear at 28c3 where I did not attend but sadly I do not
>> have the money to store your old computer junk and in 20 years people
>> might be cursing everyone who threw a P4 away, like REALLY cursing them.
>>
>> I am going to invest in lottery tickets. Old Hardware FTMFW.
>>
>> http://youtu.be/HUEvRyemKSg
>>
>> "Sopa breaking the internet on this fundamental level in the name of
>> preserving top 40 music, reality TV shows, & Ashton Kutcher movies"
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, Ben Kochie wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:12:11 -0800
>>> From: Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com>
>>> To: Ian McKellar <ian at mckellar.org>
>>> Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Hardware donation?
>>>
>>> Sorry, but these would be best put on ebay or added to the e-waste bin.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:16, Ian McKellar <ian at mckellar.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi hackers,
>>>>
>>>> I've got some old-ish hardware kicking around my small apartment
>>>> getting on my wife's nerves. I'd like to get it out of here - I'll
>>>> "recycle" it (ie: send it to developing world slums) but I thought I'd
>>>> see if Noisebridge is interested in it. I have:
>>>> - Shuttle SB86I
>>>> (http://www.bit-tech.net/custompc/reviews/69796/shuttle-xpc-sb86i.html)
>>>>  it has ram, a p4 cpu a hard disk and an optical drive. I estimate
>>>> that it's probably worth about $150 based on ebay auctions for similar
>>>> gear.
>>>> - Dell Optiplex GX110
>>>> (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx110/en/index.htm)
>>>>  p3 with some ram, a cpu and an optical drive. The internet seems
>>>> to think it's worth about $100.
>>>> - CoolerMaster 500W PSU
>>>> (http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=57). Probably
>>>> worth $30.
>>>> - Belkin F6500H-SER UPS
>>>> (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Belkin-Surge-Protector-F6500-SER-/330559011607#ht_2388wt_1165).
>>>> Haven't used it in years - I assume it works.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any Noisebridge projects that could use these fine vintage
>>>> computing items? I'm sure sick of looking at them.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> --
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