[Noisebridge-discuss] Reorganization at noisebridge

Liz Henry liz at bookmaniac.org
Fri Jan 13 19:08:40 UTC 2012


Please think about wheelchair accessibility while reorganizing.... I 
can't be at NB for a while yet but when I am will be back in my manual 
chair.  cheers.


- liz


On 1/13/12 10:57 AM, Elijah Post wrote:
> The plan will be to fix that with a barrier- probably an addition of
> whiteboards.
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:44 AM, lilia<liliakai at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> I stopped by the space on my way to work today. I found the stuff from
>> my shelf spread across three shelves and some stuff that I didn't
>> recognize on my shelf. Let me know if you or anyone you know is
>> missing big black windows media center laptop or a case of green-pak
>> pipette tips.
>>
>> The member shelves are in two columns, forming a long member hallway
>> between them. This makes one column protected and the other totally
>> exposed to attack (casual observation/thievery) from the workspace
>> side. I'm glad mine ended up on the protected side.
>>
>> I noticed that an ad-hoc wall was formed between the hack shelves and
>> member shelves, so that the member hallway is only accessible from one
>> end. The floor on closed-off side is full of random stuff, further
>> reducing accessibility for members. Who does any of it belong to? Not
>> much way to tell now.
>>
>> If you had stuff on your shelf that you cared about, I highly
>> recommend checking on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Elijah Post<elijahpost at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Well hopefully everything will end positively. It's unfortunate that
>>> communication wasn't more clear.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Gian Pablo Villamil<
>> gian.pablo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, Miloh didn't hear about it, I didn't hear about it, and we're
>>>> pretty well plugged in. I don't recall seeing it in any of the meeting
>>>> notes, and I do read all of them. Seriously, if you're going to be
>>>> moving people's stuff, you need at least a couple of rounds of "is it
>>>> OK if we do this" type messages to the list.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Elijah Post<elijahpost at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> The idea of the the move is as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Create space for a fab lab for the Sewing machines and the
>>>>> Replicators to
>>>>> have a good space. (Right now the replicators are in as bad a place as
>>>>> they've ever been.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Make it so the member shelves are still protected and difficult for
>>>>> non-members to get to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people were talked to about this before the move started. In
>>>>> addition I
>>>>> do believe it was brought up at a meeting (although I was not there).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:43 AM, jim<jim at well.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I'm really glad to see this discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The downside of blind do-ocracy is lack of coordination.
>>>>>> "Just do it" translates as "do as you please".
>>>>>>     For NB the notion of do-ocracy grew out of disgust with
>>>>>> people talking about stuff and not doing anything.
>>>>>>     If what you're doing doesn't affect anyone else, please
>>>>>> shut up and do it.
>>>>>>     If what you're doing might affect anyone else, please
>>>>>> let them know what you plan to do before you do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What's the basic point? Unfettered do-ocracy is
>>>>>> indistinguishable from indulgence and inconsiderateness.
>>>>>> To be considerate requires restraint, i.e. discipline,
>>>>>> which is tough for children and childish personages.
>>>>>>     For the NB community's long term success, it's
>>>>>> important that each of us think about possible
>>>>>> consequences of our actions and actually talk to others.
>>>>>>     For that to happen, the community had better include
>>>>>> consideration and talking to each other as one of our
>>>>>> mantras.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 08:46 -0800, Liz Henry wrote:
>>>>>>> Did the people who use the craft/sewing area want this move to
>>>>>>> happen?
>>>>>>> What was the point here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Liz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/13/12 7:18 AM, gian.pablo at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> This sounds like such a bad idea. Who instigated this? If any of
>> my
>>>>>>>> stuff goes missing I am done with Noisebridge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2012, at 8:58 PM, gnnrok<gnnrok at gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Visited noisebridge tonight, noticed people were moving the
>> member
>>>>>>>>> shelves over to the sewing area and the sewing area to the
>> member
>>>>>>>>> shelves area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The space is pretty chaotic at the moment, stuff spread around
>> and
>>>>>>>>> chairs/tables clustered together near the electronics/wood
>> working
>>>>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems there might be some use for help with the project, and
>> or
>>>>>>>>> ideas about whether or not it's the right fit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks _______________________________________________
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>>>>> Elijah Louis Spenser Post
>>>>> Mechanic (San Francisco Bike Kitchen)
>>>>> Participant (NoiseRep at Noisebridge)
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