[Noisebridge-discuss] Just say no to SOPA

[jim]

    for some reason, "knock off artists" brings to mind 
open software/hardware.... 



On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 17:32 -0800, VonGuard wrote:
> What it really comes down to is that there are knockoff artists in
> China cranking out fake Coach bags and Levis jeans, and the government
> thinks it can stop this with copyright restrictions. They want to be
> able to cut those sellers off of the Internet.
> 
> And frankly, that is a real problem that should be solved somehow.
> 
> Its just that solving that problem by destroying the internet is akin
> to taking off and nuking the offending site from orbit.
> 
> While I feel sopa is god awful, and pipa is worse, I am also certain
> that there is nothing the government can do to limit the internet that
> we cannot circumvent. The real people in danger are the
> technologically impaired. You know, people like congress...
> 
> On Jan 14, 2012 5:03 PM, "Bill Pollock" <bill at nostarch.com> wrote:
>         I don't see why not. Fair use has worked fine for many years.
>         I've
>         never had a problem interpreting or applying it.
>         
>         That's not to say that the doctrine of fair use doesn't demand
>         different interpretation in the age of the Internet but I
>         haven't
>         found it to be a problem so far. Times change and laws change,
>         but
>         that doesn't mean that the law needs to be completely revamped
>         when
>         times change.
>         
>         But that's just my opinion as a publisher who doesn't spend
>         his nights
>         dreaming about pirates unless I'm the leader of the
>         buccaneers.
>         
>         Bill
>         
>         On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com>
>         wrote:
>         >
>         >    I'd like to understand the line between fair use
>         > and SOPA protections.
>         >
>         >
>         http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/08423917261/why-sopa-would-be-disaster-scientific-publishing.shtml
>         >
>         >    i.e. will fair use arguments sufficiently protect
>         > dissemination of knowledge (vs theft of some expression
>         > such as Pirates of the who knows what)?
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 13:07 -0800, Bill Pollock wrote:
>         >> As many of you know, I'm a publisher, and I'm against SOPA.
>         >>
>         >> Please share my thoughts if they'll help.
>         >>
>         >> http://nostarch.com/blog/just-say-no-sopa.htm
>         >>
>         >
>         >
>         
>         
>         
>         --
>         William Pollock, Founder
>         No Starch Press
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