[Noisebridge-discuss] Just say no to SOPA

[rachel lyra hospodar]

What's interesting about the example here is that the garment world has no
real copyright protections. As a creative producer in the field that is
what makes working *possible*, since garment designs are kind of all based
on each other.

The reason louis vuitton handbags and the like are covered in brand logos
as part of the design?  to permit the prosecution of knockoff artists based
on trademark violations.

I don't actually think that those knockoff artists need to be stopped.
Their very existence is a result of the companies' attempts to circumvent
the rules of copyright law in their industry, using trademark law.  Frankly
I think they deserve what they get and our law enforcement time would be
better spent elsewhere.

R.

On Jan 14, 2012 8:32 PM, "VonGuard" <vonguard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What it really comes down to is that there are knockoff artists in China
cranking out fake Coach bags and Levis jeans, and the government thinks it
can stop this with copyright restrictions. They want to be able to cut
those sellers off of the Internet.
>
> And frankly, that is a real problem that should be solved somehow.
>
> Its just that solving that problem by destroying the internet is akin to
taking off and nuking the offending site from orbit.
>
> While I feel sopa is god awful, and pipa is worse, I am also certain that
there is nothing the government can do to limit the internet that we cannot
circumvent. The real people in danger are the technologically impaired. You
know, people like congress...
>
> On Jan 14, 2012 5:03 PM, "Bill Pollock" <bill at nostarch.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't see why not. Fair use has worked fine for many years. I've
>> never had a problem interpreting or applying it.
>>
>> That's not to say that the doctrine of fair use doesn't demand
>> different interpretation in the age of the Internet but I haven't
>> found it to be a problem so far. Times change and laws change, but
>> that doesn't mean that the law needs to be completely revamped when
>> times change.
>>
>> But that's just my opinion as a publisher who doesn't spend his nights
>> dreaming about pirates unless I'm the leader of the buccaneers.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >    I'd like to understand the line between fair use
>> > and SOPA protections.
>> >
>> >
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/08423917261/why-sopa-would-be-disaster-scientific-publishing.shtml
>> >
>> >    i.e. will fair use arguments sufficiently protect
>> > dissemination of knowledge (vs theft of some expression
>> > such as Pirates of the who knows what)?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 13:07 -0800, Bill Pollock wrote:
>> >> As many of you know, I'm a publisher, and I'm against SOPA.
>> >>
>> >> Please share my thoughts if they'll help.
>> >>
>> >> http://nostarch.com/blog/just-say-no-sopa.htm
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> William Pollock, Founder
>> No Starch Press
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