[Noisebridge-discuss] Just say no to SOPA

[jim]

well said! definitely open source-ish. 



On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 07:17 -0800, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
> 
> What's interesting about the example here is that the garment world
> has no real copyright protections. As a creative producer in the field
> that is what makes working *possible*, since garment designs are kind
> of all based on each other.
> 
> The reason louis vuitton handbags and the like are covered in brand
> logos as part of the design?  to permit the prosecution of knockoff
> artists based on trademark violations.
> 
> I don't actually think that those knockoff artists need to be stopped.
> Their very existence is a result of the companies' attempts to
> circumvent the rules of copyright law in their industry, using
> trademark law.  Frankly I think they deserve what they get and our law
> enforcement time would be better spent elsewhere.
> 
> R.
> 
> On Jan 14, 2012 8:32 PM, "VonGuard" <vonguard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > What it really comes down to is that there are knockoff artists in
> China cranking out fake Coach bags and Levis jeans, and the government
> thinks it can stop this with copyright restrictions. They want to be
> able to cut those sellers off of the Internet.
> >
> > And frankly, that is a real problem that should be solved somehow.
> >
> > Its just that solving that problem by destroying the internet is
> akin to taking off and nuking the offending site from orbit.
> >
> > While I feel sopa is god awful, and pipa is worse, I am also certain
> that there is nothing the government can do to limit the internet that
> we cannot circumvent. The real people in danger are the
> technologically impaired. You know, people like congress...
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2012 5:03 PM, "Bill Pollock" <bill at nostarch.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't see why not. Fair use has worked fine for many years. I've
> >> never had a problem interpreting or applying it.
> >>
> >> That's not to say that the doctrine of fair use doesn't demand
> >> different interpretation in the age of the Internet but I haven't
> >> found it to be a problem so far. Times change and laws change, but
> >> that doesn't mean that the law needs to be completely revamped when
> >> times change.
> >>
> >> But that's just my opinion as a publisher who doesn't spend his
> nights
> >> dreaming about pirates unless I'm the leader of the buccaneers.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >    I'd like to understand the line between fair use
> >> > and SOPA protections.
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/08423917261/why-sopa-would-be-disaster-scientific-publishing.shtml
> >> >
> >> >    i.e. will fair use arguments sufficiently protect
> >> > dissemination of knowledge (vs theft of some expression
> >> > such as Pirates of the who knows what)?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 13:07 -0800, Bill Pollock wrote:
> >> >> As many of you know, I'm a publisher, and I'm against SOPA.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please share my thoughts if they'll help.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://nostarch.com/blog/just-say-no-sopa.htm
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> William Pollock, Founder
> >> No Starch Press
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