[Noisebridge-discuss] Mediation request regarding Sleeping @ Noisebridge

Violette Blumen lillian.fleurs at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 23:55:48 UTC 2012


Hello Kelly, at what time today or tomorrow would you like to meet up?

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:

> ok so Jesse and Lillian, we'll talk.
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> > It's you!
> >
> > d.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Danny, sounds like it's you or I. Let's settle that first.
> >>
> >> If it's me, I'd like to talk to Jesse and Lillian individually first,
> >> and then we could all three meet on Tuesday.
> >>
> >> -Kelly
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wladyslaw Zbikowski
> >> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> OK I see Lillian sent her reply to the discuss list. Let's take care of
> >>> this ASAP. I'm available now. When is good for others?
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> I'm available and pretty neutral with the people involved, and
> feeling not
> >>>> particularly burnt out, so i'd be up for mediating.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think (afaik) Tom or Danny would also be reasonably neutral? Maybe
> Lillian
> >>>> can weigh in if she has a preference.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kelly
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 16, 2012 5:42 PM, "Wladyslaw Zbikowski" <
> embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello, I would like to request mediation between myself, Lillian
> >>>>> Fleurs, and optionally Mark Meves. Thank you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: Violette Blumen <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:31 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Sleeping @ Noisebridge [drama]
> >>>>> To: embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com
> >>>>> Cc: Mark Meves <mark.meves at gmail.com>,
> >>>>> "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
> >>>>> <Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To Jesse -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I'm not entirely sure why I'm doing this as it will likely prove
> >>>>> to be a futile attempt at allowing you to see beyond what might just
> >>>>> be on the surface of a situation. I've seen absolutely no sign that
> >>>>> you have any sort of human compassion, so trying to show you a tiny
> >>>>> chapter of my life in order to bring out your humanity is likely out
> >>>>> of blind faith.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      I haven't been given the best deck of cards in my life. I don't
> >>>>> see myself as special or anything because of this, most people are
> >>>>> given a few lemons, and going into detail with you about my life
> isn't
> >>>>> quite on my priority list. Let's just say certain conditions I have,
> >>>>> haven't allowed for a very easy transition into adulthood. I'm
> >>>>> currently trying to get myself out of my current situation, albeit
> >>>>> difficult, by seeking help and a case worker at Larkin Street Youth
> >>>>> Services. Last night in fact, I went to their youth (18-24) housing
> >>>>> shelter (Lark Inn) in order to get a bed for the night.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     When I arrived there, I saw a large group of young adults in
> >>>>> similar situations also trying to get an emergency bed for the night.
> >>>>> Before we can get more permanent housing, we're put on this list
> where
> >>>>> we have to wait as long as 6 weeks. With the large amount of people
> >>>>> already there, I didn't think I was going to be getting an emergency
> >>>>> bed for the night. I went inside anyways while I waited for them to
> do
> >>>>> a head count of who was already there. As soon as I got inside, one
> of
> >>>>> the workers approached me to say that my TB test was expired and I
> had
> >>>>> to get a new one before I could stay in one of their beds again.
> Their
> >>>>> clinics would not be open until Monday, and if I go at that time I
> >>>>> won't get the results of my test until Wednesday. What a fucking
> >>>>> bummer. That means I'm not just out of a bed for last night, I'm out
> >>>>> of a bed until I get the results of my TB test, and that's IF I don't
> >>>>> test positive. It didn't seem like a big deal last night, I usually
> >>>>> have temporary shelter on friends couches, and the only reason I'm
> >>>>> trying to get a permanent situation is for the stability I haven't
> had
> >>>>> my entire adult life. I rode from the TL down to Noisebridge so that
> I
> >>>>> could make some phone calls to see if any of my friends were around
> to
> >>>>> give me a place. I didn't expect to stay at Noisebridge overnight. I
> >>>>> called and texted all of my friends with no avail. I couldn't get a
> >>>>> hold of anyone with a couch for the night. I then weighed my options.
> >>>>> I sure as hell wasn't going to put myself in danger on the streets,
> so
> >>>>> I decided risking some fat bearded lard waking me up with the sound
> of
> >>>>> his unauthorized photography was the safest option.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    So here's my apologies, sorry if I'm being a bit too dramatic. I'm
> >>>>> so very sorry I broke the cardinal rule of the Anarchist Hackerspace
> >>>>> in order to prevent myself from getting mugged, raped, attacked or
> >>>>> even killed from sleeping on the streets. I'm sorry that my interest
> >>>>> in technology died when I was in high school and that I lack an
> >>>>> attention span that allows me to enjoy any hobby for more than a
> >>>>> couple of weeks. I'm sorry I'm not a 1337 h4xx0rrr, and I'm sorry I
> >>>>> found programming, while relatively easy, extremely unrewarding,
> >>>>> boring, and mind numbing. I'm sorry for intruding upon your culture
> >>>>> Jesse, and I'm sorry for not tolerating bullies with superiority
> >>>>> complexes. Honestly Jesse, shouting homeless pejoratives and waving a
> >>>>> very bright light in someone's eyes while they're minding their own
> >>>>> business on their computer really says a lot about your own
> character.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To Noisebridge-
> >>>>> Unless Jesse wishes to discuss this further, it is of no interest of
> >>>>> mine to bring this up at a meeting. I said everything I wanted to say
> >>>>> right here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Lillian Fleurs
> >>
>
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