[Noisebridge-discuss] Mediation request regarding Sleeping @ Noisebridge

Violette Blumen lillian.fleurs at gmail.com
Tue Jun 19 22:05:43 UTC 2012


Sure.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you do 7:30?
>
> Kelly
> On Jun 18, 2012 4:55 PM, "Violette Blumen" <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Kelly, at what time today or tomorrow would you like to meet up?
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> ok so Jesse and Lillian, we'll talk.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>> > It's you!
>>> >
>>> > d.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Danny, sounds like it's you or I. Let's settle that first.
>>> >>
>>> >> If it's me, I'd like to talk to Jesse and Lillian individually first,
>>> >> and then we could all three meet on Tuesday.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Kelly
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wladyslaw Zbikowski
>>> >> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> OK I see Lillian sent her reply to the discuss list. Let's take care
>>> of
>>> >>> this ASAP. I'm available now. When is good for others?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> I'm available and pretty neutral with the people involved, and
>>> feeling not
>>> >>>> particularly burnt out, so i'd be up for mediating.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I think (afaik) Tom or Danny would also be reasonably neutral?
>>> Maybe Lillian
>>> >>>> can weigh in if she has a preference.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kelly
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2012 5:42 PM, "Wladyslaw Zbikowski" <
>>> embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Hello, I would like to request mediation between myself, Lillian
>>> >>>>> Fleurs, and optionally Mark Meves. Thank you.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>>> From: Violette Blumen <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:31 PM
>>> >>>>> Subject: Sleeping @ Noisebridge [drama]
>>> >>>>> To: embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com
>>> >>>>> Cc: Mark Meves <mark.meves at gmail.com>,
>>> >>>>> "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
>>> >>>>> <Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> To Jesse -
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>     I'm not entirely sure why I'm doing this as it will likely
>>> prove
>>> >>>>> to be a futile attempt at allowing you to see beyond what might
>>> just
>>> >>>>> be on the surface of a situation. I've seen absolutely no sign that
>>> >>>>> you have any sort of human compassion, so trying to show you a tiny
>>> >>>>> chapter of my life in order to bring out your humanity is likely
>>> out
>>> >>>>> of blind faith.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>      I haven't been given the best deck of cards in my life. I
>>> don't
>>> >>>>> see myself as special or anything because of this, most people are
>>> >>>>> given a few lemons, and going into detail with you about my life
>>> isn't
>>> >>>>> quite on my priority list. Let's just say certain conditions I
>>> have,
>>> >>>>> haven't allowed for a very easy transition into adulthood. I'm
>>> >>>>> currently trying to get myself out of my current situation, albeit
>>> >>>>> difficult, by seeking help and a case worker at Larkin Street Youth
>>> >>>>> Services. Last night in fact, I went to their youth (18-24) housing
>>> >>>>> shelter (Lark Inn) in order to get a bed for the night.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>     When I arrived there, I saw a large group of young adults in
>>> >>>>> similar situations also trying to get an emergency bed for the
>>> night.
>>> >>>>> Before we can get more permanent housing, we're put on this list
>>> where
>>> >>>>> we have to wait as long as 6 weeks. With the large amount of people
>>> >>>>> already there, I didn't think I was going to be getting an
>>> emergency
>>> >>>>> bed for the night. I went inside anyways while I waited for them
>>> to do
>>> >>>>> a head count of who was already there. As soon as I got inside,
>>> one of
>>> >>>>> the workers approached me to say that my TB test was expired and I
>>> had
>>> >>>>> to get a new one before I could stay in one of their beds again.
>>> Their
>>> >>>>> clinics would not be open until Monday, and if I go at that time I
>>> >>>>> won't get the results of my test until Wednesday. What a fucking
>>> >>>>> bummer. That means I'm not just out of a bed for last night, I'm
>>> out
>>> >>>>> of a bed until I get the results of my TB test, and that's IF I
>>> don't
>>> >>>>> test positive. It didn't seem like a big deal last night, I usually
>>> >>>>> have temporary shelter on friends couches, and the only reason I'm
>>> >>>>> trying to get a permanent situation is for the stability I haven't
>>> had
>>> >>>>> my entire adult life. I rode from the TL down to Noisebridge so
>>> that I
>>> >>>>> could make some phone calls to see if any of my friends were
>>> around to
>>> >>>>> give me a place. I didn't expect to stay at Noisebridge overnight.
>>> I
>>> >>>>> called and texted all of my friends with no avail. I couldn't get a
>>> >>>>> hold of anyone with a couch for the night. I then weighed my
>>> options.
>>> >>>>> I sure as hell wasn't going to put myself in danger on the
>>> streets, so
>>> >>>>> I decided risking some fat bearded lard waking me up with the
>>> sound of
>>> >>>>> his unauthorized photography was the safest option.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>    So here's my apologies, sorry if I'm being a bit too dramatic.
>>> I'm
>>> >>>>> so very sorry I broke the cardinal rule of the
>>> Anarchist Hackerspace
>>> >>>>> in order to prevent myself from getting mugged, raped, attacked or
>>> >>>>> even killed from sleeping on the streets. I'm sorry that my
>>> interest
>>> >>>>> in technology died when I was in high school and that I lack an
>>> >>>>> attention span that allows me to enjoy any hobby for more than a
>>> >>>>> couple of weeks. I'm sorry I'm not a 1337 h4xx0rrr, and I'm sorry I
>>> >>>>> found programming, while relatively easy, extremely unrewarding,
>>> >>>>> boring, and mind numbing. I'm sorry for intruding upon your culture
>>> >>>>> Jesse, and I'm sorry for not tolerating bullies with superiority
>>> >>>>> complexes. Honestly Jesse, shouting homeless pejoratives and
>>> waving a
>>> >>>>> very bright light in someone's eyes while they're minding their own
>>> >>>>> business on their computer really says a lot about your own
>>> character.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> To Noisebridge-
>>> >>>>> Unless Jesse wishes to discuss this further, it is of no interest
>>> of
>>> >>>>> mine to bring this up at a meeting. I said everything I wanted to
>>> say
>>> >>>>> right here.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -Lillian Fleurs
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>>
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