[Noisebridge-discuss] 86/85

[jim]

On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 02:13 -0700, Alan Rockefeller wrote:
> > I think these pages were a great addition
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/85
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/86
> 
> 
> The 86 page is useful, but I disagree that the 85 page is a good thing.

JS: I think you're right! Let's get rid of the 85 page. 




> 
> The conditions to which people are added to the 85 are undefined, and
> most of the recent troublemakers are not listed there.  The only
> person on the 85 page who comes to the space is Cynthia, and she is
> allowed since she completed mediation.
> 
> All of the entries are out of date and have not been updated in
> months, and most of the entries contain inaccurate negative
> information about people.   More importantly, the 85 page fosters an
> antagonistic atmosphere of  being suspicious of others and narking out
> people you don't like on the wiki, instead of dealing with social
> problems the way they should be - in person, via email or on the
> mailing list.
> 
> Some of the people on the 85 page are cool and don't belong there -
> Yogurt Container Man or Rubin for example.
> 
> The 85 page makes Noisebridge look bad - that is not the image we
> should be projecting on to the internet.
> 
> I have added a few people to the 85, and I usually feel awful about it
> later and regret making the edits.
> 
> When I tell people that they are on the 85, they feel terrible, I feel
> awful, and it isn't a good social situation at all.  They feel like
> people at Noisebridge are plotting against them, and indeed, they are.
>  It is highly awkward, and it's a poor alternative to discussing
> issues in person or over email.
> 
> The 86 page is a bit more useful than 85, those people do belong there.
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