[Noisebridge-discuss] Mediation request regarding Sleeping @ Noisebridge

Kelly hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
Wed Jun 20 02:29:43 UTC 2012


Ok I'm actually running late. We could schedule a call instead if you want.
Can we check in briefly so I can summarize things at the meeting?

4159979799.

Kelly
On Jun 19, 2012 7:21 PM, "Violette Blumen" <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have to meet someone at 8 to talk about potential housing, this might
> have to wait.
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Can you do 7:30?
>>
>> Kelly
>> On Jun 18, 2012 4:55 PM, "Violette Blumen" <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Kelly, at what time today or tomorrow would you like to meet up?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok so Jesse and Lillian, we'll talk.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>>> > It's you!
>>>> >
>>>> > d.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> Danny, sounds like it's you or I. Let's settle that first.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If it's me, I'd like to talk to Jesse and Lillian individually first,
>>>> >> and then we could all three meet on Tuesday.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Kelly
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wladyslaw Zbikowski
>>>> >> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> OK I see Lillian sent her reply to the discuss list. Let's take
>>>> care of
>>>> >>> this ASAP. I'm available now. When is good for others?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> I'm available and pretty neutral with the people involved, and
>>>> feeling not
>>>> >>>> particularly burnt out, so i'd be up for mediating.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I think (afaik) Tom or Danny would also be reasonably neutral?
>>>> Maybe Lillian
>>>> >>>> can weigh in if she has a preference.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Kelly
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2012 5:42 PM, "Wladyslaw Zbikowski" <
>>>> embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Hello, I would like to request mediation between myself, Lillian
>>>> >>>>> Fleurs, and optionally Mark Meves. Thank you.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> >>>>> From: Violette Blumen <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:31 PM
>>>> >>>>> Subject: Sleeping @ Noisebridge [drama]
>>>> >>>>> To: embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com
>>>> >>>>> Cc: Mark Meves <mark.meves at gmail.com>,
>>>> >>>>> "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
>>>> >>>>> <Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> To Jesse -
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>     I'm not entirely sure why I'm doing this as it will likely
>>>> prove
>>>> >>>>> to be a futile attempt at allowing you to see beyond what might
>>>> just
>>>> >>>>> be on the surface of a situation. I've seen absolutely no sign
>>>> that
>>>> >>>>> you have any sort of human compassion, so trying to show you a
>>>> tiny
>>>> >>>>> chapter of my life in order to bring out your humanity is likely
>>>> out
>>>> >>>>> of blind faith.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>      I haven't been given the best deck of cards in my life. I
>>>> don't
>>>> >>>>> see myself as special or anything because of this, most people are
>>>> >>>>> given a few lemons, and going into detail with you about my life
>>>> isn't
>>>> >>>>> quite on my priority list. Let's just say certain conditions I
>>>> have,
>>>> >>>>> haven't allowed for a very easy transition into adulthood. I'm
>>>> >>>>> currently trying to get myself out of my current situation, albeit
>>>> >>>>> difficult, by seeking help and a case worker at Larkin Street
>>>> Youth
>>>> >>>>> Services. Last night in fact, I went to their youth (18-24)
>>>> housing
>>>> >>>>> shelter (Lark Inn) in order to get a bed for the night.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>     When I arrived there, I saw a large group of young adults in
>>>> >>>>> similar situations also trying to get an emergency bed for the
>>>> night.
>>>> >>>>> Before we can get more permanent housing, we're put on this list
>>>> where
>>>> >>>>> we have to wait as long as 6 weeks. With the large amount of
>>>> people
>>>> >>>>> already there, I didn't think I was going to be getting an
>>>> emergency
>>>> >>>>> bed for the night. I went inside anyways while I waited for them
>>>> to do
>>>> >>>>> a head count of who was already there. As soon as I got inside,
>>>> one of
>>>> >>>>> the workers approached me to say that my TB test was expired and
>>>> I had
>>>> >>>>> to get a new one before I could stay in one of their beds again.
>>>> Their
>>>> >>>>> clinics would not be open until Monday, and if I go at that time I
>>>> >>>>> won't get the results of my test until Wednesday. What a fucking
>>>> >>>>> bummer. That means I'm not just out of a bed for last night, I'm
>>>> out
>>>> >>>>> of a bed until I get the results of my TB test, and that's IF I
>>>> don't
>>>> >>>>> test positive. It didn't seem like a big deal last night, I
>>>> usually
>>>> >>>>> have temporary shelter on friends couches, and the only reason I'm
>>>> >>>>> trying to get a permanent situation is for the stability I
>>>> haven't had
>>>> >>>>> my entire adult life. I rode from the TL down to Noisebridge so
>>>> that I
>>>> >>>>> could make some phone calls to see if any of my friends were
>>>> around to
>>>> >>>>> give me a place. I didn't expect to stay at Noisebridge
>>>> overnight. I
>>>> >>>>> called and texted all of my friends with no avail. I couldn't get
>>>> a
>>>> >>>>> hold of anyone with a couch for the night. I then weighed my
>>>> options.
>>>> >>>>> I sure as hell wasn't going to put myself in danger on the
>>>> streets, so
>>>> >>>>> I decided risking some fat bearded lard waking me up with the
>>>> sound of
>>>> >>>>> his unauthorized photography was the safest option.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>    So here's my apologies, sorry if I'm being a bit too dramatic.
>>>> I'm
>>>> >>>>> so very sorry I broke the cardinal rule of the
>>>> Anarchist Hackerspace
>>>> >>>>> in order to prevent myself from getting mugged, raped, attacked or
>>>> >>>>> even killed from sleeping on the streets. I'm sorry that my
>>>> interest
>>>> >>>>> in technology died when I was in high school and that I lack an
>>>> >>>>> attention span that allows me to enjoy any hobby for more than a
>>>> >>>>> couple of weeks. I'm sorry I'm not a 1337 h4xx0rrr, and I'm sorry
>>>> I
>>>> >>>>> found programming, while relatively easy, extremely unrewarding,
>>>> >>>>> boring, and mind numbing. I'm sorry for intruding upon your
>>>> culture
>>>> >>>>> Jesse, and I'm sorry for not tolerating bullies with superiority
>>>> >>>>> complexes. Honestly Jesse, shouting homeless pejoratives and
>>>> waving a
>>>> >>>>> very bright light in someone's eyes while they're minding their
>>>> own
>>>> >>>>> business on their computer really says a lot about your own
>>>> character.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> To Noisebridge-
>>>> >>>>> Unless Jesse wishes to discuss this further, it is of no interest
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>> mine to bring this up at a meeting. I said everything I wanted to
>>>> say
>>>> >>>>> right here.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> -Lillian Fleurs
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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