[Noisebridge-discuss] Mediation request regarding Sleeping @ Noisebridge

[Ever Falling]

Is it necessary to mirror this conversation on the discuss list?

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok I'm actually running late. We could schedule a call instead if you
> want. Can we check in briefly so I can summarize things at the meeting?
>
> 4159979799.
>
> Kelly
> On Jun 19, 2012 7:21 PM, "Violette Blumen" <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have to meet someone at 8 to talk about potential housing, this might
>> have to wait.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Can you do 7:30?
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>> On Jun 18, 2012 4:55 PM, "Violette Blumen" <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Kelly, at what time today or tomorrow would you like to meet up?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok so Jesse and Lillian, we'll talk.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > It's you!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > d.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Danny, sounds like it's you or I. Let's settle that first.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If it's me, I'd like to talk to Jesse and Lillian individually
>>>>> first,
>>>>> >> and then we could all three meet on Tuesday.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -Kelly
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Wladyslaw Zbikowski
>>>>> >> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>> OK I see Lillian sent her reply to the discuss list. Let's take
>>>>> care of
>>>>> >>> this ASAP. I'm available now. When is good for others?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> I'm available and pretty neutral with the people involved, and
>>>>> feeling not
>>>>> >>>> particularly burnt out, so i'd be up for mediating.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I think (afaik) Tom or Danny would also be reasonably neutral?
>>>>> Maybe Lillian
>>>>> >>>> can weigh in if she has a preference.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Kelly
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2012 5:42 PM, "Wladyslaw Zbikowski" <
>>>>> embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello, I would like to request mediation between myself, Lillian
>>>>> >>>>> Fleurs, and optionally Mark Meves. Thank you.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> >>>>> From: Violette Blumen <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:31 PM
>>>>> >>>>> Subject: Sleeping @ Noisebridge [drama]
>>>>> >>>>> To: embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com
>>>>> >>>>> Cc: Mark Meves <mark.meves at gmail.com>,
>>>>> >>>>> "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
>>>>> >>>>> <Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> To Jesse -
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>     I'm not entirely sure why I'm doing this as it will likely
>>>>> prove
>>>>> >>>>> to be a futile attempt at allowing you to see beyond what might
>>>>> just
>>>>> >>>>> be on the surface of a situation. I've seen absolutely no sign
>>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>> you have any sort of human compassion, so trying to show you a
>>>>> tiny
>>>>> >>>>> chapter of my life in order to bring out your humanity is likely
>>>>> out
>>>>> >>>>> of blind faith.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>      I haven't been given the best deck of cards in my life. I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> >>>>> see myself as special or anything because of this, most people
>>>>> are
>>>>> >>>>> given a few lemons, and going into detail with you about my life
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> >>>>> quite on my priority list. Let's just say certain conditions I
>>>>> have,
>>>>> >>>>> haven't allowed for a very easy transition into adulthood. I'm
>>>>> >>>>> currently trying to get myself out of my current situation,
>>>>> albeit
>>>>> >>>>> difficult, by seeking help and a case worker at Larkin Street
>>>>> Youth
>>>>> >>>>> Services. Last night in fact, I went to their youth (18-24)
>>>>> housing
>>>>> >>>>> shelter (Lark Inn) in order to get a bed for the night.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>     When I arrived there, I saw a large group of young adults in
>>>>> >>>>> similar situations also trying to get an emergency bed for the
>>>>> night.
>>>>> >>>>> Before we can get more permanent housing, we're put on this list
>>>>> where
>>>>> >>>>> we have to wait as long as 6 weeks. With the large amount of
>>>>> people
>>>>> >>>>> already there, I didn't think I was going to be getting an
>>>>> emergency
>>>>> >>>>> bed for the night. I went inside anyways while I waited for them
>>>>> to do
>>>>> >>>>> a head count of who was already there. As soon as I got inside,
>>>>> one of
>>>>> >>>>> the workers approached me to say that my TB test was expired and
>>>>> I had
>>>>> >>>>> to get a new one before I could stay in one of their beds again.
>>>>> Their
>>>>> >>>>> clinics would not be open until Monday, and if I go at that time
>>>>> I
>>>>> >>>>> won't get the results of my test until Wednesday. What a fucking
>>>>> >>>>> bummer. That means I'm not just out of a bed for last night, I'm
>>>>> out
>>>>> >>>>> of a bed until I get the results of my TB test, and that's IF I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> >>>>> test positive. It didn't seem like a big deal last night, I
>>>>> usually
>>>>> >>>>> have temporary shelter on friends couches, and the only reason
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> >>>>> trying to get a permanent situation is for the stability I
>>>>> haven't had
>>>>> >>>>> my entire adult life. I rode from the TL down to Noisebridge so
>>>>> that I
>>>>> >>>>> could make some phone calls to see if any of my friends were
>>>>> around to
>>>>> >>>>> give me a place. I didn't expect to stay at Noisebridge
>>>>> overnight. I
>>>>> >>>>> called and texted all of my friends with no avail. I couldn't
>>>>> get a
>>>>> >>>>> hold of anyone with a couch for the night. I then weighed my
>>>>> options.
>>>>> >>>>> I sure as hell wasn't going to put myself in danger on the
>>>>> streets, so
>>>>> >>>>> I decided risking some fat bearded lard waking me up with the
>>>>> sound of
>>>>> >>>>> his unauthorized photography was the safest option.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>    So here's my apologies, sorry if I'm being a bit too
>>>>> dramatic. I'm
>>>>> >>>>> so very sorry I broke the cardinal rule of the
>>>>> Anarchist Hackerspace
>>>>> >>>>> in order to prevent myself from getting mugged, raped, attacked
>>>>> or
>>>>> >>>>> even killed from sleeping on the streets. I'm sorry that my
>>>>> interest
>>>>> >>>>> in technology died when I was in high school and that I lack an
>>>>> >>>>> attention span that allows me to enjoy any hobby for more than a
>>>>> >>>>> couple of weeks. I'm sorry I'm not a 1337 h4xx0rrr, and I'm
>>>>> sorry I
>>>>> >>>>> found programming, while relatively easy, extremely unrewarding,
>>>>> >>>>> boring, and mind numbing. I'm sorry for intruding upon your
>>>>> culture
>>>>> >>>>> Jesse, and I'm sorry for not tolerating bullies with superiority
>>>>> >>>>> complexes. Honestly Jesse, shouting homeless pejoratives and
>>>>> waving a
>>>>> >>>>> very bright light in someone's eyes while they're minding their
>>>>> own
>>>>> >>>>> business on their computer really says a lot about your own
>>>>> character.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> To Noisebridge-
>>>>> >>>>> Unless Jesse wishes to discuss this further, it is of no
>>>>> interest of
>>>>> >>>>> mine to bring this up at a meeting. I said everything I wanted
>>>>> to say
>>>>> >>>>> right here.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> -Lillian Fleurs
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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