[Noisebridge-discuss] Anti-sleepers / Livers at Noisebridge

Jake jake at spaz.org
Tue Oct 2 20:44:43 UTC 2012


It's true that waking someone up and asking them to leave can be difficult 
if it's just you.  That's why I always rally two or more people to join 
me before approaching a sleeper.  Waking up to find three people looking 
at you tends to work very well in precluding any argument.

It's much much easier to rally a couple of people to help you before you 
wake the person up than after.  And realistically, if you can't rally at 
least one person to join you, it is understandable if you don't try to 
wake the person up.  If you can photograph them without a flash that might 
be helpful, and post to the list about finding them, but nobody expects 
you to be able to get them out by yourself.

In such cases, the problem needs to be solved by improved technology.  Our 
subcontractors (rayc) are working on improving the lighting on the door 
camera, and the noisebridge security team has deleted the door code which 
was being used by the most people.  So hopefully, sleepers and livers will 
be pressing the door button again and we will have the option of ignoring 
them when we see them on the door camera.

Eric wrote:

Tonight as I was working in the Church, I heard someone snoring. I found
that obnoxious asian guy sleeping in the DJ booth. I woke him up and
asked him to leave. In the process, I found a guy named Jason sleeping
on the couch.

I don't like doing this and it got very tense because the asian guy did
NOT want to leave. Jason was cool about it. I let Jason slide on
Saturday night. I received very little support from the other users.
This is not appreciated.

If I can't get support from other users for enforcing this rule, then I
won't do it. I don't like doing it and I was very respectful. I can't
say the respect was reciprocated. The word "Fight" was mentioned.

I told them to come back on Tuesday night if they wanted to appeal my
actions. It is my understanding that the Asian guy has already been
banned for making homophobic comments, but it's conjecture.

I also informed Martin that any drunkness or sleeping will be tolerated
by me, no matter how much I like him. I treated him like an adult and a
friend and he was receptive. I told him that his name may arise in the
Tues. meeting. He is considering attending the meeting or simply taking
a sabbatical for a week or two.

Please, if the collective wants the sleeping rule enforced then they
should support the person that enforces it. I always give people
multiple chances and need help when I draw the line.

Thank you.




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