[Noisebridge-discuss] access control improvements

Tue Oct 9 15:49:35 UTC 2012

I like any experimental hacks for the door opener that make it easier for
people to act in the preferred manner. Meaning, if we want people to assess
who they are letting in, improvements to the system should encourage this
behavior.  I like jake's suggestions here!!

R.
 On Oct 9, 2012 3:08 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> The solution is not to lock up every little thing, the entire point of
> noisebridge is to have a place where we Can Have Nice Things.
>
> The solution is to use our access control tools to properly exclude people
> who do not belong, and who only see recyclable copper and aluminum when
> they look at our hacking materials, and see our laptops as things they
> could sell to get drug money.
>
> I am hoping to further improve the door camera, so that one can clearly
> see who they are considering letting in.
>
> I also think we should change the doorbell button to be a push-to-talk
> microphone so that instead of sending an anonymous and annoying beeping
> noise which simply stimulates people to push the door opener, one has to
> speak into a microphone and that sound is carried to a speaker upstairs.
>
> Eventually i hope to convince Consenso that we should disconnect the
> upstairs door-opener button and replace it with a codepad, whereby the door
> can only be buzzed open by someone with access to a code.
>
> -jake
>
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Jennifer Mann wrote:
>
>  Regarding the laptops that run the CNC, laser cutter, etc. ...  would it
>> be worth
>> spending some Noisebridge funds on a couple of laptop lock cables ($13
>> ea.) to keep
>> them from wandering off next time they are replaced?  Or were those
>> already in use and
>> cut through?
>> I just joined Noisebridge, and I love that it is a very open and trusting
>> place.
>>  However, I think there are a few inexpensive precautions that could be
>> implemented
>> that wouldn't be seen as unfriendly, just as assuring that general-use
>> items will be
>> there when someone needs them.
>>
>> - Jenn
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>       ... AND one of my macbooks (one was returned, eventually)
>>       ... AND a sled of chips
>>       ... AND a small miniITX machine.  Old, but serviceable
>>
>>       The fact is, if it's valuable and on a member shelf .. these days
>>       there's a good chance it's gone.
>>
>>       I thought about bringing one of those plastic storage bins with a
>>       lockable top and putting it on my shelf space.   I'm still thinking
>>       about that solution.
>>
>>       -M
>>
>>       On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>       > Actually, there has been theft.  Maybe not of the donations bins
>> (i
>>       disagree
>>       > that presence of proper collection precludes the possibility that
>> people
>>       are
>>       > sticking their hands into an unmonitored unlocked box of cash by
>> the
>>       door)
>>       > but of laptops.
>>       >
>>       > Laptops have been disappearing from the member shelves and
>> elsewhere.
>>       >
>>       > Everyone knows about the lasercutter laptop that was stolen by
>> some
>>       tweaker.
>>       > Not everyone realizes that the CNC machine laptop has been stolen
>> THREE
>>       > TIMES.
>>       >
>>       > The first one was the one we took to toorcamp - it had been
>> donated by
>>       > Carlos just before toorcamp.  It was stolen a few weeks after
>> toorcamp, i
>>       > believe.
>>       >
>>       > Then I gave Hao another laptop to use as the CNC laptop, and he
>> put it on
>>       > his member shelf.  Before he got it set up and running, I gave him
>>       another
>>       > laptop to use as CNC machine (to use whichever worked better) but
>> then
>>       both
>>       > were stolen, from his shelf.
>>       >
>>       > That, coupled with the disappearance of a lot of valuable and
>> useful
>>       > materials from the hack shelves, is plenty of proof to me that
>> theft is
>>       > happening.
>>       >
>>       > -jake
>>       >
>>       >
>>       > Danny / O'Brien wrote:
>>       > Oh, as you were then. I checked the black bin, and it was in
>> there. Mea
>>       > culpa.
>>       >
>>       > No-one will, of course, remember this email when they tell each
>> other
>>       > enthusiastically how money is going from the bins.
>>       >
>>       > Anyway, all my other points are EXCELLENT, and we should probably
>> be more
>>       > organized about this. I will defer doing anything about this until
>>       somebody
>>       > harasses me though.
>>       >
>>       > d.
>>       >
>>       > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Mitchel McAllister <xonimmortal
>> at
>>       > yahoo.com>wrote:
>>       >
>>       >
>>       >> I have been taking the money out of the pink box and putting it
>> in the
>>       >> metal box, as was requested by a member, after I expressed
>> concern that
>>       >
>>       > the
>>       >>
>>       >> hasp on the pink box was broken.
>>       >>
>>       >> I haven't seen people taking things from the bins, but I have
>> seen
>>       >
>>       > people
>>       >>
>>       >> tossing things from bin to bin.
>>       >>
>>       >> - Reverend Mik ------------------------------
>> www.prismandink.com
>>       >
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>> Jennifer Mann
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