[Noisebridge-discuss] no actual theftiness and not from the donation bins

Jake jake at spaz.org
Wed Oct 10 02:22:33 UTC 2012


i think this is a great idea, but i have never worked with RFID stuff.

the tags would have to be cheap so we could put them on lots of things.

I would love for us to have this, but i don't know what equipment to use.

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Brandon Edens wrote:

> I was also thinking another possible solution is to utilize a tagging system
> such as RFID to tag devices in the space that are intended not to leave
> Noisebridge. This would be done in conjunction with sensors placed at / near the
> entrance that loudly/silently alarm/records when one of those items are removed
> from the space.
>
> Obviously knowledgeable folks will be able to defeat this system but it might
> stop folks that are taking (borrowing?) tools hastily without much forethought.
>
> Some other thoughts... A silent alarm that records the occurrence could be used
> to determine if items are being removed from the space in groups and when. It
> could help inform future discussions.
>
> A camera could be rigged up to snap a photo when the alarm is triggered. This
> camera doesn't have to be digital or internet connected. Polaroid anyone?
>
> Also obviously some folks might remove tags and plant them on friends / enemies
> as a joke / attack which could result in hilarity / unrest.
>
> Thoughts?
> Brandon
>
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 08:59:59PM -0700, Jennifer Mann wrote:
>
>> Regarding the laptops that run the CNC, laser cutter, etc. ...  would it be
>> worth spending some Noisebridge funds on a couple of laptop lock cables ($13
>> ea.) to keep them from wandering off next time they are replaced?  Or were
>> those already in use and cut through?
>>
>> I just joined Noisebridge, and I love that it is a very open and trusting
>> place.  However, I think there are a few inexpensive precautions that could be
>> implemented that wouldn't be seen as unfriendly, just as assuring that
>> general-use items will be there when someone needs them.
>>
>> - Jenn
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     ... AND one of my macbooks (one was returned, eventually)
>>     ... AND a sled of chips
>>     ... AND a small miniITX machine.  Old, but serviceable
>>
>>     The fact is, if it's valuable and on a member shelf .. these days
>>     there's a good chance it's gone.
>>
>>     I thought about bringing one of those plastic storage bins with a
>>     lockable top and putting it on my shelf space.   I'm still thinking
>>     about that solution.
>>
>>     -M
>>
>>     On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>    > Actually, there has been theft.  Maybe not of the donations bins (i
>>     disagree
>>    > that presence of proper collection precludes the possibility that people
>>     are
>>    > sticking their hands into an unmonitored unlocked box of cash by the
>>     door)
>>    > but of laptops.
>>    >
>>    > Laptops have been disappearing from the member shelves and elsewhere.
>>    >
>>    > Everyone knows about the lasercutter laptop that was stolen by some
>>     tweaker.
>>    > Not everyone realizes that the CNC machine laptop has been stolen THREE
>>    > TIMES.
>>    >
>>    > The first one was the one we took to toorcamp - it had been donated by
>>    > Carlos just before toorcamp.  It was stolen a few weeks after toorcamp, i
>>    > believe.
>>    >
>>    > Then I gave Hao another laptop to use as the CNC laptop, and he put it on
>>    > his member shelf.  Before he got it set up and running, I gave him
>>     another
>>    > laptop to use as CNC machine (to use whichever worked better) but then
>>     both
>>    > were stolen, from his shelf.
>>    >
>>    > That, coupled with the disappearance of a lot of valuable and useful
>>    > materials from the hack shelves, is plenty of proof to me that theft is
>>    > happening.
>>    >
>>    > -jake
>>    >
>>    >
>>    > Danny / O'Brien wrote:
>>    > Oh, as you were then. I checked the black bin, and it was in there. Mea
>>    > culpa.
>>    >
>>    > No-one will, of course, remember this email when they tell each other
>>    > enthusiastically how money is going from the bins.
>>    >
>>    > Anyway, all my other points are EXCELLENT, and we should probably be more
>>    > organized about this. I will defer doing anything about this until
>>     somebody
>>    > harasses me though.
>>    >
>>    > d.
>>    >
>>    > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Mitchel McAllister <xonimmortal at
>>    > yahoo.com>wrote:
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >> I have been taking the money out of the pink box and putting it in the
>>    >> metal box, as was requested by a member, after I expressed concern that
>>    >
>>    > the
>>    >>
>>    >> hasp on the pink box was broken.
>>    >>
>>    >> I haven't seen people taking things from the bins, but I have seen
>>    >
>>    > people
>>    >>
>>    >> tossing things from bin to bin.
>>    >>
>>    >> - Reverend Mik ------------------------------ www.prismandink.com
>>    >
>>    >
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