[Noisebridge-discuss] Two working surveillance cameras, but no functional doorbell?

[Jake]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> I found out about the broken doorbell through someone coming from a
> class in one of the classrooms stating none of the students are able to
> get in because no one was buzzing them in.

The teacher of that class should create an access code for those students 
and tell all of them the code so that they can get in.  One of the things 
Danny is working on is a code adder/deleter that will allow for creation 
of expiring codes, although I would say that anyone attending a class is 
relatively trustworthy enough to have a class-shared code until they get 
their own.

I'm guessing that the "students" are studying something that has to do 
with Computers, which makes the fact that their teacher is not taking 
advantage of our -Computerized- access control system kind of silly.

> All this while a couple kids seated next to me were discussing their 
> plans to spend another night in the space, of whom left the space and 
> were able to re-enter about 30 minutes later.

please see my new thread about how They have learned to pick our lock with 
a bart card.  We need to fix that.  This is also something that the camera 
will help with, and the broken buzzer won't hurt.

> Jake, unless we're standing guard at the gate 24/7, neither of us knows 
> exactly who's being let in and kept out, why and how.

well, while i was out there installing the new camera (you're welcome) is 
how i learned about the lockpicking that was happening using the bart 
cards (see my other post about that)

> Again I can't stress this more, technical solution don't work for
> fundamentally social problems.

technical solutions solve problems brought on by the failure of Security 
By Obscurity which is what we have been using up until now.

If you actually want to fix the social problems that noisebridge is 
suffering from, you will have to solve poverty and homelessness, as well 
as alcoholism, drug abuse, and the high price of drugs.  Also, solve the 
problem that most people don't belong in a hackerspace because they don't 
know how to use the equipment, or have any goals relating to hacking, and 
thus end up contributing a lot more entropy to the space than anything 
else.

Then you can just leave the door open to the street.

> Jake, you're welcome to throw mud at me

it was poop

> and call me a hypocrite, I'm simply here to point out how much down the
> hole we've sunk and am pointing my finger at those of us who've been
> here since the beginning and have simply given up on the space.
>
> -- 
> Rubin
> rubin at starset.net

thank you.

-jake