[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: Notice of Paypal Policy Updates

[Ryan Rawson]

This is mostly just their attempt at neutering class action lawsuits
against them.  I can't believe the courts would allow this kind of
crap, but I guess someone would have to test it to find out for
certain.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Alexandra Glowaski
<alex.glowaski at gmail.com> wrote:
> I recommend reading the whole update. Their email doesn't mention the
> section "Limitations of Liability":
>
> Section 15.1 is being amended to add that in addition to the limitations
> already stated under that provision, to the extent permitted by applicable
> law, PayPal is not liable, and you agree not to hold PayPal responsible for
> any damages or losses (including, but not limited to, loss of money,
> goodwill, or reputation, profits, or other intangible losses or any special,
> indirect, or consequential damages) resulting directly or indirectly from:
> (1) Your use of or your inability to use PayPal’s sites and services; (2)
> delays or disruptions in PayPal’s sites and services; (3) viruses or other
> malicious software obtained by accessing PayPal’s sites or services or any
> site or service linked to PayPal’s sites or services; (4) glitches, bugs,
> errors, or inaccuracies of any kind in PayPal’s sites or services or in the
> information and graphics obtained from them; (5) the content, actions, or
> inactions of third parties; (6) a suspension or other action taken with
> respect to your Account; (7) your need to modify practices, content, or
> behavior, or your loss of or inability to do business, as a result of
> changes to this User Agreement or PayPal’s policies.
> [Bolding mine.]
>
> Certainly something to consider.
>
> - merlin
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey Noisebridge,
>>
>> Check out this policy update I just got from Paypal.  We already know they
>> are nefarious, of course, but this is some gnarly kind of way to behave.  Do
>> we still use them for processing payments? Do we want to keep doing that in
>> light of their overall track record as well as this recent information?
>>
>> R.
>>
>>
>>         View online
>>
>> <https://email-edg.paypal.com/r/EKXJE0M/AQ3I9/409D1MW/C584VA/M8QWM/85/h?a=EKXJE0M&b=DFHI2&c=I9XDHYR&d=LQOH531&e=1>
>>
>> PayPal
>>
>> Notice of Policy Updates
>>
>> Dear Rachel [User],
>> PayPal recently posted a new Policy Update which includes changes to the
>> PayPal User Agreement. *The update to the User Agreement is effective
>> November 1, 2012 and contains several changes, including changes that
>> affect how claims you and PayPal have against each other are resolved.
>> You will, with limited exception, be required to submit claims you have
>> against PayPal to binding and final arbitration, unless you opt out of
>> the Agreement to Arbitrate (Section 14.3) by December 1, 2012. _Unless
>> you opt out: (1) you will only be permitted to pursue claims against
>> PayPal on an individual basis, not as a plaintiff or class member in any
>> class or representative action or proceeding and (2) you will only be
>> permitted to seek relief (including monetary, injunctive, and
>> declaratory relief) on an individual basis._*
>>
>> You can view this Policy Update by logging in to your PayPal account. To
>> log in to your account, go to https://www.paypal.com and enter your
>> member log in information. Once you are logged in, look at the
>> Notifications section on the top right side of the page for the latest
>> Policy Updates. *We encourage you to review the Policy Update to
>> familiarize yourself with all of the changes that have been made.*
>>
>> If you need help logging in, go to our Help Center by clicking the Help
>> link located in the upper right-hand corner of any PayPal page.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> PayPal
>>
>>
>>         Please do not reply to this email. We are unable to respond to
>> inquiries sent to this address. For immediate answers to your questions,
>> visit our Help Center by clicking "Help" located on any PayPal page or
>> email.
>>
>> Copyright © 2012 PayPal Inc. All rights reserved. PayPal is located at
>> 2211 N. First St., San Jose, CA 95131.
>>
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