[Noisebridge-discuss] Who do we want to exclude? [Drama]

John Withers jwithers at reddagger.org
Wed Apr 10 21:53:51 UTC 2013

On 04/10/2013 02:18 PM, Andrew Byrne wrote:
> In short, even the lack of action is a violence. -dru

Well, violence seems a little strong. But I think it is highly non-optimal.

Mik kind of hit on this during the last round of discussions when talked 
about a group of people meeting for a project moving into the area 
around the desk he was using and disrupting his workflow and/or shooting 
him dirty looks. I can't remember all the details, but that was the gist 
of it.

Mik sees one of the functions of the space (and I am not trying to put 
words in your mouth here Mik) as a coworking kind of environment. I see 
it in a perfect world as an educational and project working space for 
hackers first, other considerations second. Neither of these is a wrong 
view particularly, since we don't seem to choose to prioritize one set 
of activites over the other in reality (there might be a document 
somewhere that says, I dunno. The wiki has some words someone at some 
point put on it I think, someone else might change them). But these 
occasional clashes of understanding of how the space might be best used 
and what activities might reasonably take priority lead to situations 
like he described. Or as I have found where it is just easier not to 
have the group I am working with meet at NB to avoid the same hassle.

But there will always be resource clashes of one sort or another I 
guess. And possibly having a clearer agreement on what NB's community 
might consist of in a perfect world very possibly wouldn't really help 
much. I am not an expert on anything other than the stuff I need to do 
my projects, and given the vast amount of time it takes me to get 
projects done, possibly not even that.


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