[Noisebridge-discuss] pony.noise/gate video feed

[Artur Moczulski]

Well, let's start off from the fact that you would have to be inside the
space to do it. And you would try to invigilate NBers like that, you would
have to be there all the time. So somebody would definitely notice you! I'm
pretty sure a bunch of programmers and computer geeks at NB can notice if
you are up to some malicious activities by accidently glancing at your
screen when passing by. Especially if you are there long enough to stealth
spy NBers.

Besides, the same argument applies to the video feed which we already have.
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be very hard for you somebody to set up a small
camera somewhere in the space directed and zoomed on the screen for such
malicious purposes. There is a lot of hardware laying around at NB, I'm
sure nobody would spot it for a long time.

The truth is unexcellent enough to assault NBers privacy and stealth spy on
them for some reason, I'm pretty sure they could do it anyway.

I think that there is much more positives to having such a feed than
negatives.

On 12 April 2013 11:24, LinkReincarnate <linkreincarnate at gmail.com> wrote:

> How would they notice? If I connect to that page using screen capture
> software would people notice?
> On Apr 12, 2013 10:53 AM, "John Ellis" <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> On the first point, I agree.
>>
>> As for the second point, the combination of do-ocracy, and shared
>> management of systems goes against such "stealth monitoring".
>> eg. Anyone can work on the door system, to repair, modify, adapt, as long
>> as it doesn't create problems for the property management, and is
>> considered "excellent"
>>
>> Same deal with the servers. If somebody was stealth recording the stream
>> on pony, then somebody else would notice. Pony (or virtually any of the NB
>> servers) don't have an implied expectation of privacy from other users, do
>> they? Unexcellent use of resources would have consequences.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> -John
>> (Re-sent to discuss)
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Ken M. Haggerty <kenmhaggerty at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> In a separate previous discussion the following concerns were raised:
>>>
>>> • Some NBers did not want to encourage those not at Noisebridge to open
>>> the gate remotely, and adding a video feed to the page may encourage that.
>>>
>>> • Some NBers are concerned about any infrastructure that conceptually
>>> allows stealth recording of NBers, including when entering the space, are
>>> in general against even having a camera at entrance (except perhaps one
>>> with a retractable cover).
>>>
>>> -Ken
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Cameron Hackett <camhkt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey guys. Chris just came up with a cool idea. We should add a video /
>>>> sound feed from the camera downstairs to the gate opening page we have on
>>>> the network, so that anyone anywhere can monitor who is coming into and out
>>>> of Noisebridge.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Artur Moczulski <
>>>> arthur.paul.black at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys. Chris just came up with a cool idea. We should add a video /
>>>>> sound feed from the camera downstairs to the gate opening page we have on
>>>>> the network.
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