[Noisebridge-discuss] Feces and Urine in the shop

Tue Apr 16 19:09:27 UTC 2013

How about a completely randomized siren with average interval around 15 minutes and duration around 3 seconds? Name it "The Spanish Inquisition."

On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea at MIT.EDU> wrote:

> I've been watching this discussion for a while from quite far away, and I agree that a mural full of proper Noisebridge Excellence would be a excellent idea. I should not, for context, that the Hacking Ethics mural is nearly worshipped; everyone who wishes to be a Hacker is customarily taken to the Ethics first and made to read them in detail, attempting to cement True Hacking Ethics in everyone who ever hacks at all. On the other hand, there's also some aura around the Ethics, saying that "Hacking is illegal, but if you get caught and are following the ethics, you'll be punished less." I'm not sure such a aura can be easily replicated when participating at Noisebridge is not illegal.
> 
> I would propose, as a potential solution for sleepers making the space less habitable for those awake, something I've seen implemented with some success: "You  can nap here, but everyone else is duty-bound to completely ignore you, and are duty-bound to be as loud as if you were awake, and you are duty-bound not to complain about noise because the purpose of the space is primarily not sleeping." I don't know if this is something currently implemented, having never attempted to sleep at nb, but I do believe it fits 'be excellent to each other'.
> 
> 
> On 04/16/2013 01:54 PM, Ken M. Haggerty wrote:
>> Thanks, Reverend Mik. This is really unacceptable.
>> 
>> I think it would do us some good to establish set of "Hacker ethics" very much in line with what is at MIT:
>> http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N66/graphics/thumb-lg-hackingethics.jpg
>> 
>> These guidelines could be posted in LARGE LETTERS as a mural as you enter the space so that it is made clear what is expected of individuals whom are given the privilege to enjoy Noisebridge and the community we as a whole have created.
>> 
>> The idea of a non-binding set of protocols would be to establish a normalization of behavior (a phrase I am sure will bother more than a few people).
>> 
>> One of the key things I have learned thus far in life is that you really cannot assume anything of anyone, including "standards" of behavior; not because "people are bad," but because...
>> 
>> • People come from all sorts of backgrounds and experiences, and the one experience that taught you not to pick your nose may not have happened to someone else.
>> • We are a product of the environment with which we surround ourselves.
>> • Everything each of us knows is a result of an external input being interpretted by an internal process, and we each have varying reactions to external inputs.
>> 
>> Those who are generally active in these discussions are likely not those who are treating the space poorly, and so these email threads are preaching to the choir + the few "trolls" who, to a limited extent, do us a service by engaging debate (and then usually things fall to pieces...).
>> 
>> The challenge then is in determining what characteristics of Noisebridge are indeed are part of our proud character and which are merely correlational and/or detrimental and should be changed.
>> 
>> I may or may not be at tonight's meeting as I am leaving for NYC tomorrow for a week.
>> 
>> -Ken
>> 
>> 
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>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Mitchel McAllister <xonimmortal at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> There were no dogs in the space last night that I know of.
>> 
>> However, it was brought to my attention early this morning that there have been bottles and other containers full of urine found in hidden places in the space. It doesn't make sense to me either.
>> 
>> 
>> - Reverend Mik McAllister
>> "You can see the summit but you can't reach it
>> Its the last piece of the puzzle but you just can't make it fit
>> Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the pain
>> Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the drain"
>>  - Howard Jones, "No One Is To Blame"
>> Purveyor of Subversive Fiction
>> http://www.prismandink.com
>> http://www.lunatextpublications.com
>> 
>> --- On Tue, 4/16/13, jarrod hicks <hicksu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: jarrod hicks <hicksu at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Feces and Urine in the shop
>> To: "NoiseBridge Discuss" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 10:33 AM
>> 
>> 
>> I arrived at Noisebridge about 15 minutes ago to get some work done. There was a large pile of feces next to the table saw and a drying puddle of urine next to the drill press. I have cleaned up the feces and am in the process of drying, sweeping, and cleaning up the urine.
>> 
>> This is the second time within the last week that there has been feces in the shop, and more than the second time that I have found urine in the space.
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