[Noisebridge-discuss] leave (and associated belligerence)

Tony Longshanks LeTigre anthonyletigre at gmail.com
Sun Apr 21 17:29:07 UTC 2013


Dan tells different things to different people. I have witnesses. Dan
doesn't want to be involved in this issue any more for reasons of his own.
I also don't want to be involved in the issue any more for other reasons:
mainly, I'm working. I didn't want to be involved in the issue in the first
place. I spent that entire night trying to work in the space, moving from
one end to the other & unable to do so no matter where I worked because
belligerent individuals were fighting around me & trying to rope me into
their conflict or disturbing the atmosphere to the point that work was
impossible. I have unsubscribed from the DIsgust list forever & am only
responding to this b/c it was mailed to me. I would prefer to have no
matter part in this discussion. Please don't insinuate that I'm a liar,
though, that's weak. It's also another betrayal from a former friend. (I
will handle the remainder of this discussion off-list.)


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can we take the drama to the meeting?  I think both of them should be
> banned for unexcellent behavior.  I frankly don't care if a knife was or
> was not pulled at this point.  It is stupid drama that has nothing to do
> with hacking.  Let us all shut up and hack.
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com>wrote:
>> I'd like to point out that Dan doesn't recall a knife and he's sorry
>> about falling down the stairs. -dru
>>  On Apr 18, 2013 8:00 PM, "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I have not brought any scuzzy people into the space. I haven't brought
>>> *any* people into the space.
>>> Once again Tony proves that he and reality have ireeconcilable
>>> differences.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Date: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:35:09 pm
>>> To: "Andrew Byrne" <andrew at pachakutech.com>
>>> Cc: Mitchel McAllister <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>, NoiseBridge Discuss <
>>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>> From: "Tony Longshanks LeTigre" <anthonyletigre at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] leave (and associated belligerence)
>>> "Tony knows I didn't have a knife."
>>> Bullshit. How would I know you didn't have a knife? Your attitude in the
>>> space has continuously been extremely hostile. You bring scuzzy
>>> disruptive
>>> people into the space. I told two people last night about the incident &
>>> they both replied, "I'm not surprised [that you pulled a knife], he's
>>> brutal." That's just about verbatim.
>>> I'm not trying to make myself the center of attention, I'm trying to make
>>> shitty behavior on the part of yourself & others the center of attention,
>>> so it will hopefully be dealt with, since I alone obviously lack the
>>> power
>>> to resolve it.
>>> As of today, I officially don't care. I've reconnected with the big
>>> beautiful world outside Noisebridge. I will be in the space sporadically
>>> for the next week or so, then going North for a break. From that point on
>>> my relationship to Noisebridge is going to change, from a drug addiction
>>> to
>>> a healthier, less intimate, more sustainable relationship.
>>> So, since no one else seems to care about this issue, I don't either.
>>> Maybe
>>> knife fights are just the thing we need to mix it up a bit. I've got
>>> several knives myself for prepping food in the wilderness & self-defense
>>> (if need be). Have fun, everyone. I still think NB is a great place. I'm
>>> coming in later today to see if I can laser cut a couple things in time
>>> for
>>> a meeting I have tonight.
>>> +11+
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> > A third party asking witnesses other than our friend Tony if they saw
>>> > anything, maybe. An impasse would be unpleasant.
>>> >  On Apr 17, 2013 11:35 PM, "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>  I really wish you people would learn what "mediate" means.  mediation
>>> >> implies a middle ground.  Exactly what middle ground exists between a
>>> false
>>> >> accusation and anassertion that the accusation is false?
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:14:46 pm
>>> >> To: "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>
>>> >> Cc: Tony Longshanks
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> --
> Ronald Cotoni
> Systems Engineer
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