[Noisebridge-discuss] Semantics

[Danny O'Brien]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you start seeing patterns of human behavior, look to the environment,
> not the individuals.  The chances are not high that all of those people are
> "stupid".  The chances are much higher that Noisebridge has a bad user
> interface.
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>
Agreed. I find it hard to accuse anyone else of being stupid before
immediately doing something stupid myself.

I also agree that people asking you something while in the space is
annoying, and one of the things that people have consistently said make it
hard to work on a project there. I think a couple of solutions are a) wear
earphones, which is sort of the universal "do not disturb" sign and does
not need explanation, b) book a room yourself.

On the other hand, the other thing Rubin has often said that rings very
true with me is that if you feel yourself being inconvenienced by new
people or posessive of where you are working, it's very often the case that
you yourself are using the space a bit too much, and you might want to hang
out in
another location for a while. While it's true that new people only have as
much right as you to space to do stuff at Noisebridge, equality is
commutative.

d.




For further reading, I suggest the first 3 chapters of The Design of
> Everyday Things by Donald A Norman.
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> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Mitchel McAllister <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> The "stupid-free zone" lasted about 12.3 minutes, if you recall. That's
>> about the time that the "Steve Jobs was teh gay" conspiracy talk started
>> back up again.
>>
>> - Reverend Mik McAllister
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>> --- On *Mon, 4/1/13, Robert Benson <sf99er at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Robert Benson <sf99er at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Semantics
>> To: "NoiseBridge Discuss" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> Date: Monday, April 1, 2013, 3:18 PM
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>>
>> while i agree that people talking while i am trying to focus is
>> bothersome, i realize that noisebridge is quite large & there is usually
>> another less used area in which i can retreat to; perhaps installing a few
>> more ethernet cables would expand the usable space.
>>
>> as to the newcomers & their inquiries, perhaps a well placed welcome
>> board could be installed that could serve as a noisebridge primer in the
>> event nobody is available or inclined to give a tour. dan has
>> do-ocratically been greeting people at the upstairs door & he gives a damn
>> good tour, imho. if people are really bothering you, maybe a do not disturb
>> sign could be set up by you...kinda like your 'stupid free zone' sign.
>>
>> me thinks, anarchy demands tolerance & communication
>>
>> wishing you all the best
>>
>> ~robb
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