[Noisebridge-discuss] bunk beds at noisebridge?

Jake jake at spaz.org
Wed Apr 17 09:07:57 UTC 2013


I can't find any mention of this topic in the meeting notes on the wiki, 
for any of the recent meetings.  Are there notes about this discussion 
anywhere on the internet?

-jake

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013, Leif Ryge wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:23:16AM -0700, Jake wrote:
>> god, i can't figure out if Leif loves noisebridge or if he is a
>> total troll.
>
> I do love Noisebridge and I'm quite sincere in my belief that having a
> designated napping place will reduce the problems around sleeping in the
> space. I apologize for not bringing this to the mailinglist; it was
> mentioned in the meeting notes for the two weeks prior to beginning
> construction, and before that I sought out input from a variety of
> people who I expected to have reservations about it (are you sure I
> didn't mention it to you, jake? I thought I had). The general feeling I
> got from those discussions was that it's worth a shot. There was not a
> consensus proposal about it.
>
> I request that people refrain from disassembling the hacker-stacker
> napping pods without first waiting a while to see if they don't improve
> the situation. If I'm totally wrong about my predictions, I will help
> disassemble them myself.
>
> Some predictions:
>
> * Having a designated place to take naps will significantly reduce the
> occurance of sleeping elsewhere in the space.
>
> * Having a designated place to take naps will make waking people up in
> other locations less unpleasant, because they can be invited to continue
> their nap in the hacker-stacker.
>
> * People who are in fact not really just taking a short nap will be more
> visible and thus their misuse of Noisebridge will be more immediately
> obvious.
>
> * Many Noisebridgers will take occassional naps, and thus will be
> happier and have more energy to do awesome stuff with their conscious
> minds while at Noisebridge.
>
> * People who practice polyphasic sleep will be able to use
> Noisebridge without messing up their schedule.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep#Comparison_of_sleep_patterns
>
> * Waking someone up *because you yourself want to take a nap there* will
> actually make sense! (I once tried this in the library on behalf of a
> polyphasic-sleeper friend who needed to take their regularly-scheduled
> 20 minute nap, and the person I woke up told me that (1) they weren't
> sleeping, and (2) my friend was not allowed to sleep there.)
>
> * An EEG and/or other instruments might be installed for people to
> to record and publish data about their sleep and dreams. I'll let Kevin
> elaborate on this plan.
>
> ~leif
>
> ps: thanks Za and Kevin for doing most of the building! and thanks to
> everyone else who helped.
>
> pps: a certain froggy toad is very unimpressed by the design and has
> sketches for a much less rectangular structure which will hopefully be
> built to replace v0 in the future.
>
>
>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013, Tony Longshanks LeTigre wrote:
>>
>>> The hacker stacker. I was totally surprised when I first saw it, too—never thought the day would come, but it strikes me as a pragmatic & good-natured compromise to an obviously-not-going-away problem. I didn't attend the meetings, but my understanding is that Leif
>>> championed the idea, which presumably passed through the consensus process (or not?) in order to become a more or less officially sanctioned napping area. I've taken a few naps on the stacker already myself. Not the most comfortable bed I've ever laid down on, nor
>>> yet the least. A lot like jail: bright lights always on, voices, commotion, not exactly peaceful—the east end of the space feels like a much more appropriate location for it, if you ask me—but when you need to sleep badly enough you can really lower your standards,
>>> don't I know it! My attitude toward sleeping in the space has evolved from "no sleeping at Noisebridge" to "it sorta depends on the individual person & circumstances." Same as with door policy, really.
>>> +11+
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>      huh. weird. using cables as cross bracing is a weird idea but i guess it means that it'll be easier to disassemble.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>      picture attached (taken with permission)
>>>
>>>      On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Ever Falling wrote:
>>>
>>>            oh man i'd love to see this. pics?
>>>
>>>
>>>            On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>                  I am surprised to see that people are building a set of bunk
>>>                  beds at noisebridge.  For "sleep research"?
>>>
>>>                  discuss.
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