[Noisebridge-discuss] today's noon sleephackers

[Nicholas LoCicero]

Yeah, i know about doocracy and i know there was a rebase. Still, i think
the place would be much better without the kitchen and switch it to a ''pay
what you can'' communal coffee and microwave station. Which i have brought
up a lot. I'm not going to be an enabler for the idealist, autocratic
consensus that knows no compromise by cleaning, etc. there needs to be a
policy change and no amount of doacracy will allow that.
On Aug 9, 2013 1:54 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> Anyone who wants to donate in the meantime, see
> https://www.noisebridge.net/**wiki/Donate_or_Pay_Dues<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Donate_or_Pay_Dues>
>
> On 8/9/13 1:52 PM, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>
>> Nicholas, I think it is unfair to say, "noone is doing anything about
>> it".  First, lots of people are doing things, but since there is not a
>> full consensus about what the problem is nor what is best to do about
>> it, sometimes these things counteract each other (e.g. the sleeping
>> pods) so it's often hard to see.  Also, the problem (broadly defined as
>> non-hackers doing stuff that impedes hacking) is a hard one to solve, as
>> it is not obvious how to a) identify non-hackers nor how to b) either
>> make them into hackers or encourage them to not-hack elsewhere.
>>
>> Second, if you want changes to happen, please please please make them
>> happen yourself!  You have heard, endlessly, about "doocracy".  It is
>> really a thing.  That is really how shit gets done at NB.  Yeah, not a
>> lot of shit gets done, and some things that everyone agrees would be
>> nice to happen, don't, but that's only because nobody has stepped up to
>> actually do them.  You could do them, you know.  (You too, everyone else
>> who is reading this.)
>>
>> Daniel, regarding the donation box: it was stolen some time back
>> according to an earlier thread.  I'm in process of making a new, heavy
>> and sturdy steel one, but it will take me another week or so.  Anyone
>> who wants to provide one in the meantime, feel free.
>>
>> Rachel1.0
>>
>> On 8/9/13 1:44 PM, Nicholas LoCicero wrote:
>>
>>> Fair enough. I do think a lot of changes at noisebridge need to be made,
>>> but nothing is enforceable. Sooo, idk. It's just annoying to keep
>>> hearing the same problem and no one is doing anything about it. I agree
>>> it's a problem that detracts from other peoples use of the space. I took
>>> the picture joke too sensitively. It's friday, be happy!
>>>
>>> I do love noisebridge and am upset nothing changes accept the slow,
>>> entropic demise of the space.
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2013 1:35 PM, "Daniel Kelly" <arrays.tostring at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:arrays.tostring at gmail.**com <arrays.tostring at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Nicholas, I carefully excluded clear pictures of anyone's face from
>>>     the photos I posted.
>>>
>>>     I wouldn't want to accidentally leak the identity of a Noisebridge
>>>     bunk bed crasher or couch sleeper.
>>>
>>>     That could be anyone in the bunk beds.  If it was a couple of body
>>>     pillows
>>>     plus animated mannequin heads, I apologize.  Excellent hack.
>>>
>>>     ok snarkiness off.  I'm sorry for being rude. There's a huge bunch
>>>     of homeless guys camping in noisebridge again.
>>>
>>>     In an unrelated item, I wanted to drop off my traditional $10
>>>     donation of whenever I walk through the door of 2169 Mission, but I
>>>     couldn't find the donation box.
>>>
>>>     Have a nice day (really).
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com
>>>     <mailto:rachel at xtreme.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Rules?  What rules?  We have *one* guideline: Be excellent to
>>>         each other.
>>>
>>>         It is of course a matter of debate whether the following are
>>>         excellent, or which is less excellent:
>>>
>>>         * sleeping at NB
>>>         * photographing sleepers at NB
>>>
>>>         Rachel1.0
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 8/9/13 12:54 PM, Nicholas LoCicero wrote:
>>>
>>>             I wish you'd do something interesting with your time in the
>>>             space.
>>>             Instead you break the rules photographing people without
>>>             their consent.
>>>
>>>             The guy in camo pants fell asleep reading about calculus and
>>>             actually
>>>             understands java really well.
>>>
>>>             Please attend the next meeting, Daniel. I'm not sure you
>>>             understand the
>>>             rules of this place.
>>>
>>>             On Aug 9, 2013 12:13 PM, "Daniel Kelly"
>>>             <arrays.tostring at gmail.com <mailto:arrays.tostring at gmail.**
>>> com <arrays.tostring at gmail.com>>
>>>             <mailto:arrays.tostring at gmail.**__com
>>>             <mailto:arrays.tostring at gmail.**com<arrays.tostring at gmail.com>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                  They look so peaceful
>>>
>>>             http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__**fVTplDL<http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__fVTplDL>
>>>             <http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#**fVTplDL<http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#fVTplDL>
>>> >
>>>             http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__**JdP9laC<http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#__JdP9laC>
>>>             <http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#**JdP9laC<http://imgur.com/a/UDB1M#JdP9laC>
>>> >
>>>
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