[Noisebridge-discuss] I asked Charles to leave this evening

Charles Tang cjtang1 at asu.edu
Sat Dec 7 11:00:25 UTC 2013

"I was almost gonna ask him to leave the other day.
He was super disruptive and extremely annoying...
it felt like he was targeting me with his lack of social skills
while I was trying to get work done... writing code.



Lack of social skills. Really?

I didn't act like a jerk. My syntax, mannerism of speech, and all are
indicative of issues pertaining to my disability.

Perhaps, instead of telling someone to leave, when they are clearly
exhibiting pressured speech, and radical associations. Then telling
them they should not come back, you could politely tell the person
that their becoming elevated, over-excited, or whatever adj. you would
like to use to describe whatever.

We don't kick people out for being anti-social, but we can if they
become hyper-active.

There is a clear discretion problem here. And it stems from the
preexisting social circles, and those attributes these individuals
commonly share. It's become radically exclusive, albeit masked as an
inclusive environment through chains of rules that desperately impact
individuals that act or have a disability in a similar fashion as me.

On 7 December 2013 02:50, Tom Lowenthal <me at tomlowenthal.com> wrote:

> On 7 December 2013 02:11, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I recall Charles also accusing other people of being homophobic towards
> > him, when I had seen they said nothing even touching on the topic of
> > sexuality: he was just annoying them.
> On 7 December 2013 02:21, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
> > Al,
> > I have met you once, and I have not done that. This is completely made
> up.
> Charles, I don't know about your conversations with Al. However, the
> first time we spoke, right after I told you that I didn't want to keep
> talking with you because I found you annoying and abrasive*, you
> response was to ask me if I was instead offended that you were gay.
> *I know, right: Tom calling someone annoying and abrasive, that's
> rich! When you get the opportunity to meet Charles, you should judge
> for yourself.
> On 7 December 2013 02:01, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
> > I was called a faggot and physically threatened by another individual in
> the
> > public space.
> I know that I've said this already, but that sort of behavior is
> totally unacceptable. I would very much like to hold accountable the
> person who acted this way towards you.
> >On 7 December 2013 02:01, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
> > Further, due to these triggers, I’ll invoke Title III of the ADA, as my
> abilities
> > to “function” in a fashion these individuals seek is clearly unduly
> burdensome
> > to individuals with a similar disability as to mine:
> If you think that Noisebridge has failed to adequately accommodate a
> disability of yours, perhaps you might find it more useful to specify
> in particular which accommodations your disability requires, and which
> we have failed to provide. I suspect that would work better than
> simply pasting a selection from the act.
> If you think that the ADA prohibits folks from complaining when you
> act like a jerk, you are mistaken.
> -Tom
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