[Noisebridge-discuss] Thought crimes at Noisebridge, and how can we stop them?

[Madelynn Martiniere]

I, for one, am really pleased to see so much discussion about the future 
of Noisebridge.

The conversation about finding solutions for Noisebridge is obviously a 
heated topic, and there are passionate views on both sides. That's a 
good thing, it means that people still care about the space and the 
community that has been built, and want it to thrive.

There are also others who have expressed, particularly in this thread 
that they don't believe that a) anything needs fixing, and b) they don't 
want to be involved in these kind of discussions.

For the sake of keeping the discussion going, while respecting those who 
don't want to be involved in it, I would like to propose a separate list 
for solution-oriented discussion about the difficulties that Noisebridge 
is facing.

This will hopefully keep down some of the traffic on this list, moving 
the focus back to cool projects and hacks.

I'm unfamiliar with the process, would anyone else be willing to help me 
with this (in the spirit of do-acracy?)

Cheers,
Madelynn

> jim <mailto:jim at well.com>
> December 19, 2013 12:04 PM
> (My recollection is) originally we
> had declared that we must remember that
> members may participate in various, all
> valid, means: The Tuesday Night Meeting,
> IRC, various mailman lists....
> Managing these (and other) media is
> too great a job for any one person (and
> thanks for trying!).
> My take was to have faith in others
> and don't try to fix problems--let the
> group dynamics take their courses and
> hope for the best (and get active with
> respect to things that impinge directly).
>
>
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> Madelynn Martiniere <mailto:mmartiniere at gmail.com>
> December 18, 2013 7:41 PM
> Trying to find community is a thought crime? My bad, I didn't realize 
> the opinion of people who care about the future of the space were so 
> criminal.
>
> Considering this statement in your previous email:
> And let's be honest, Noisebridge in the last two years (or even from the
> beginning) hasn't been the best establishment to go flaunt around saying
> you're a member of. It's sort of like telling all your friends you're a
> paying member of the festering techno trash dump and care home for the
> socially dongz, while mice and rats run around inside your sports blazer.
>
> Are you saying that it's not worth fixing because it's so messed up? 
> Because if so, then you're in no position to tell other people not to 
> try. If you're that sick and tired of hearing other people try to fix 
> a broken system, then I would suggest the alternative of just not 
> participating in any discussion about the space. Just hack some 
> things, and leave the rest of us to find productive solutions.
>
> Cheers,
> Madelynn
>
>
>
> Rubin Abdi <mailto:rubin at starset.net>
> December 18, 2013 6:37 PM
> I'm getting sick and tired of people thinking they can fix Noisebridge.
> How can we put an end to this issue?
>
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Madelynn Martiniere
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