[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Stuff is piling up on the floor of the member shelves.

[Ronald Cotoni]

Ok, an office.  A clubhouse.  A business.  A non profit.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:

> Please don't compare Noisebridge to a residence.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually you know what.  Here is how I feel.
>>
>> Imagine noisebridge is my apartment.  I have this area where I store
>> things that I like to be able to get to.  I have house guests over (anyone
>> who visits noisebrdge) and they keep leaving crap on the floor preventing
>> me from getting to the things I want to get to.  You know what I do?  I
>> stop letting them in my apartment.  What does noisebridge do?  Something
>> completely different that allows the things to keep preventing me from
>> getting to the things I like to be able to get to.  This includes physical
>> and non physical objects.  We are missing a logical step in preventing that
>> and I have no clue how to fix it but that is what is going on.  We keep
>> talking about the color of the bike shed without actually building the bike
>> shed really.
>>
>> This is how I feel.   <3 you noisebridge!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IMHO, I don't care what is in the suitcase.  It is not excellent to
>>> leave the member shelf area a shithole where you can't walk down it.  A
>>> suit case in the space (given past experiences) were usually peoples
>>> "apartments".  They contained all of their worldly possessions.  If that
>>> person is a "Well known member of noisebridge", they should know better and
>>> I propose they go on a hiatus for a while to rethink their actions and how
>>> they affect the space.  I also suggest this for everyone who has
>>> contributed to making the member shelf area a mess by you know, leaving
>>> things on the ground and making it unusable for actual people trying to
>>> hack.  Perhaps I was not very excellent in the way I got my point across.
>>>  Perhaps you are too understanding of this "Well known member of
>>> noisebridge" and he has some political capital that allows him to continue
>>> this behavior.  The world will never know!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get a room, you two!
>>>>
>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM, spinach williams <
>>>> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Text is an ambiguous way to communicate, I'll try to clarify. What I
>>>>>> meant was that people seemed to be overreacting and projecting way more on
>>>>>> Ronald's words than he said or probably intended. I just noted that Ronald
>>>>>> didn't say all that much to get this derision heaped on him. I didn't mean
>>>>>> anything like, "the 'winner' is the argument with the lowest word count".
>>>>>> And I wouldn't characterize your "how kind" comment as part of the
>>>>>> overreaction.
>>>>>>
>>>>> intention does not determine impact.
>>>>>
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>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>> Systems Engineer
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>> --
>> Ronald Cotoni
>> Systems Engineer
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Ronald Cotoni
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