[Noisebridge-discuss] Neutral Pronoun "E"

[Al Sweigart]

Ah, the "whatever the hell" part of Monad's email threw me. I thought he
was trying to trivialize people who wanted to raise consciousness about
male-centric gendered language.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:

> I must admit that custom pronouns for people are difficult, though - ones
> such as "xe," "hir", etc., mostly because it's difficult to remember (it's
> hard enough for me to remember people's names), and throws a wrench into my
> normal speech or writing pattern when I try integrating it. It is out of
> convenience rather than lack of respect that I often resort to "they/them"
> when I'm referring to people of non-binary gender.
>
> For example, I think this guy was being disrespectful, but I somewhat
> understand his difficulty to fulfill the requests he was sent:
> http://gawker.com/should-atheists-be-allowed-to-do-yoga-705731142
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, basically this issue sort of has the two camps of "be respectful
>> towards inclusive language and other people's gender identities" vs
>> "insisting on changing language usage is political correctness gone mad".
>>
>> I sympathize with the former. It's not a big deal inconvenience to say
>> "they" instead of "he" or "chair" instead of "chairman".
>>
>> Back in the 70s or whenever, the introduction of the title "Ms." had a
>> similar situation. Some people thought it was
>> political-correctness-gone-mad. Nowadays, we look at it as common sense:
>> "Duh, of course you should have a female title that is neutral towards
>> marital status, why was this ever controversial?"
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
>> jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> He seems to be insinuating that people who want to be referred to as a
>>> specific pronoun is a form of political correctness. I personally find that
>>> to be disrespectful, but I don't know about you, Johny.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM, johny radio <johnyradio at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> how is monad disrespecting anyone? it seems he is suggesting a
>>>> gender-neutral pronoun, to avoid using the masculine. Please explain what
>>>> you mean, Spinach.
>>>>
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