[Noisebridge-discuss] FOIA Request for records pertaining to Noisebridge

[Ronald Cotoni]

https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2012-February/029020.htmlunless
those were fake agents.  Just saying.  We should question whatever
they came about and see if we get anything, even though we already know.
I wonder.


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Or .. as in my case, "sealed by executive order."
>
> No kidding, either.   I did an FOIA request at about the same time as
> Ping for my own file, and that's what came back.
>
> -M
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM, gardner <gardner at invulnerable.org> wrote:
> > Hi Ping,
> >
> >   In the past, I have found that the best way to attract unwanted
> > surveillance attention was to seek nuclear fuel to create an autonomous
> > trans-oceanic submarine that would smuggle tens of thousands of pounds of
> > cocaine across international borders while remaining undetected from all
> but
> > the most happenstance of coincident. Hah! Just kidding. You want to prove
> > the FBI is lying. Not do something illegal to then be sure that the FBI
> > would have records.
> >
> > Now in all seriousness: Do you have reasonable cause to believe that the
> FBI
> > has a file on Noisebridge? That wifi AP labeled "FBI Surveillance Van"
> was a
> > joke.
> >
> > If you do have a reasonable suspicion then the bad news is that if the
> FBI
> > did have anything on NB then it is probably classified under some
> > cyber-security-paranoid-asshole secret level and the FBI would have no
> > problem straight-up violating the FOIA using some (probably secret)
> > interpretation of a recent law that any reasonable person would agree is
> > totally ludicrous and unconstitutional. The burden of proof then falls on
> > you. You will experience success appealing when you have reasonable proof
> > that the response from the FBI is incorrect. The support of lawyers could
> > not hurt. Lawyers generally hang out at the EFF, NLG, ACLU, and ACLU
> > Northern California.
> >
> > Chances are the things that are of interest to the powers that be are
> > handled by other TLAs which operate under different grants of (probably
> > illegal) power.
> >
> > -g
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:42:34 -0800 (PST), Ka-Ping Yee wrote:
> >>
> >> I posted the reply that I got from the FBI:
> >>
> >>     https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/FOIA_letter
> >>
> >> They said they couldn't find anything.  Any suggestions on what next?
> >>
> >>
> >> --Ping
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Ronald Cotoni
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