[Noisebridge-discuss] FOIA Request for records pertaining to Noisebridge

[Danny O'Brien]

Hey Gardner,

Ping's working with the EFF. The FOIA request was written with our help.

d.


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM, gardner <gardner at invulnerable.org> wrote:

> Hi Ping,
>
>   In the past, I have found that the best way to attract unwanted
> surveillance attention was to seek nuclear fuel to create an autonomous
> trans-oceanic submarine that would smuggle tens of thousands of pounds of
> cocaine across international borders while remaining undetected from all
> but the most happenstance of coincident. Hah! Just kidding. You want to
> prove the FBI is lying. Not do something illegal to then be sure that the
> FBI would have records.
>
> Now in all seriousness: Do you have reasonable cause to believe that the
> FBI has a file on Noisebridge? That wifi AP labeled "FBI Surveillance Van"
> was a joke.
>
> If you do have a reasonable suspicion then the bad news is that if the FBI
> did have anything on NB then it is probably classified under some
> cyber-security-paranoid-**asshole secret level and the FBI would have no
> problem straight-up violating the FOIA using some (probably secret)
> interpretation of a recent law that any reasonable person would agree is
> totally ludicrous and unconstitutional. The burden of proof then falls on
> you. You will experience success appealing when you have reasonable proof
> that the response from the FBI is incorrect. The support of lawyers could
> not hurt. Lawyers generally hang out at the EFF, NLG, ACLU, and ACLU
> Northern California.
>
> Chances are the things that are of interest to the powers that be are
> handled by other TLAs which operate under different grants of (probably
> illegal) power.
>
> -g
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:42:34 -0800 (PST), Ka-Ping Yee wrote:
>
>> I posted the reply that I got from the FBI:
>>
>>     https://www.noisebridge.net/**wiki/FOIA_letter<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/FOIA_letter>
>>
>> They said they couldn't find anything.  Any suggestions on what next?
>>
>>
>> --Ping
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