[Noisebridge-discuss] Junior was asked to leave, come back to Tuesday meeting.

J.C. r33lmm at gmail.com
Sun Feb 24 04:16:11 UTC 2013


I'm glad to see that the rev was able to get some support on addressing an
issue to the space and pulling in others to help out. I would love to see
this encourage other members of the community (paying/that thing where
someone doesn't block/and otherwise) channel this mystical Pope aura and do
something sooner rather than later.

...what would Lord Omar do


On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:

> I got a call from the Reverend Mik asking me to come down to the space:
> he'd asked said Jnr to leave, because occupying the bathrooms[1]
> frequently in the last few days. He'd not left when the Reverend asked
> him to. Junior's a round-faced guy, black, with a black cap and who
> listens to music in the space. That does not really pin him down, I
> know.
>
> I don't have any magic powers in this capacity, but I had some time
> free. I came down and introduced myself as the Arch Pope of Noisebridge.
> Junior was at this point mixing some music on his netbook pretty
> determinably, but he looked really ill with red eyes. We talked. He said
> that he was diabetic, which is why he blacks out in the toileet. It was
> pretty clear he is homeless. I explained the deal with being asked to
> leave, which he knew about because he was around in the last meeting,
> except he thought that it was just members who could tell people to
> leave. I said that I didn't think that would work.
>
> He left, very very slowly, picking up a looot of stuff as he went. In
> the end, after we'd chatted at the bottom of the stairs for a long time,
> I took a picture of him. He got very angry at this. I agreed that it was
> rude, but getting him to leave had now taken over an hour, and the last
> few meters had taken an additional twenty minutes, and we were now in a
> public place. We cut a deal that if he left in one minute, I'd delete
> the pictures, and he did. The pictures weren't very flattering anyway.
>
> A few lessons:
>
> 1) As ever, it's worth reminding everyone that YOU CAN DO THIS TOO. If
> you need practice, ask *me* to leave. We can role play it. It takes a
> bunch of time, but it doesn't usually escalate. If you need somebody who
> looks like they're in authority, anoint yourself or a friend an Arch
> Pope of Noisebridge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism#Popes
> Please don't fall into the error of thinking that someone else is in
> charge of this.
>
> 2) The MAPS van, which was a resource for transporting homeless people
> (if they want) to a place where they can be treated, does not exist any
> more. If there's somebody who is really not on this planet, you can call
> 415-734-4233, which is the SF Homeless Outreach Team's number. They
> didn't want to deal with Junior because he wasn't in a sufficiently bad
> way. Here is a PDF that describes what they do:
>
> http://www.sfdph.org/dph/files/hc/HCAgen/2013/jan%2015/rev%20010713%20Announce_SFHOT_EST_-_Garcia_Goy.pdf
>
> 3) I don't like taking pictures of people without their permission, but
> it's legal, and it turns out I can be pushed to do it if pressed. I
> always try to act in situations like this like I imagine a slap drone
> would behave in the Culture. I like the idea of surveillance being an
> ultimate sanction, rather than a persistent and universal state. I am
> happy to take more opinions on this.
>
> 4) In the rest of the space, people were cleaning up, and organizing a
> hacking session for I think a civic project. It was quiet for a
> Saturday, like a library.
>
> [1] OCCUPY THE BATHROOMS. For hours, is how it was described.
>
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