[Noisebridge-discuss] [Noisebridge-announce] Frontend Web Development, Monday 8pm: Menus and modals

[Daniel Pitts]

I too applaud your taking on teaching this class, however I have a few 
comments.

Newsgroups are a great resource for asking for help when you're stuck. 
Granted, a "search" doesn't always help (though sometimes it does).

I'd also like to caution against using language like "how most people in 
the real world". Plenty of real websites don't use jQuery. Do you have 
any statistics to back that statement up?  I'm not saying jQuery isn't 
popular or useful. I think it is both. But as a pedagog, it's important 
to discuss which alternatives exist, and why you are teaching the 
particular thing instead of an alternative. Even if the answer is 
"because it's what I know".

On 1/13/13 10:13 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden wrote:
> Hi Garrett,
>
> This is a class for beginners getting into web development. I've 
> already taught a few classes on beginner JavaScript and have 
> encouraged good coding along the way, but I can only do so much for an 
> introduction class. I have covered HTML, and learning about how most 
> people in the real world program websites (by using jQuery and its 
> plugins) is important - a newsgroup search isn't going to help most 
> beginners. Additionally, I think API design, feature testing, and even 
> an emphasis on coding style and guidelines, are out of the scope of 
> this class. Introducing these topics to people just learning to code 
> seems to me like it would be overwhelming to most.
>
> I wholeheartedly recommend that you avail yourself as a resource to 
> teach these important, but more advanced, topics. Start a class! The 
> more who contribute, the better.
>
> Jeffrey
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com 
> <mailto:dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 1/13/13, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jeffreyatw at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Hi Jeffrey -
>     > On Monday, we're going back to the "professional" site we put
>     together a
>     > number of weeks ago:
>     > http://jeffreyatw.com/static/frontend/series3/class13/noiseco.zip
>     > and adding more functionality to it with some jQuery plugins. We'll
>     > introduce Bootstrap (http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/) and
>     jQuery UI (
>     > http://jqueryui.com/) to make common web development tasks easier.
>     >
>     I appreciate such volunteering to teach people things. Especially so
>     late at night.
>
>     I'm not trying take anything away from what you're doing and just
>     wanted to suggest instead of looking at jQuery*, I can help with
>     questions and finding the right resources for HTML, feature testing,
>     and API design/SOLID principles (like anything but w3schools, right?)
>
>     Regards,
>     --
>     Garrett
>     Twitter: @xkit
>     personx.tumblr.com <http://personx.tumblr.com>
>     *https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/search?group=comp.lang.javascript&q=jquery&qt_g=Search+this+group
>
>
>
>
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