[Noisebridge-discuss] State of the dirty workshop

[jim]

    There's a new hero in sawdust-town: Monok or some 
such. I suspect he's too smart and/or busy to read the 
NB discuss list. I talked with him a couple of times 
on Sunday. I'm gonna try to be a welcoming supporter. 
    He pretty much acknowledges the practical sides 
of things. I think his story would be that he's just 
starting and doesn't expect miracles. 
    I told him to hide the routers and he seemed 
surprised, then I think he got my point: don't make 
really dangerous tools easily available to the 
adventurous and inexperienced. 

    I'm pretty sure he'll welcome any improvements 
that anyone else makes. I'm hoping I get around to 
putting up a sign on the east pegboard (which he 
bought himself) that says "Screwdrivers" and that 
I put hanger thingies for every single screwdriver 
that's in there (or should be). I think hammers might 
be a good candidate for hanging on pegboard (not in 
a mislabeled drawer). Also everything that has to do 
with measuring--pencils, levels, right-angles... 
seems good on the pegboard all on the east wall. 
Saws seem good on the north wall pegboard. 

    A sign with a list of things people can donate 
will be good. Like #1, #2, and #3 philips screwdrivers, 
hacksaw blades, sand paper, drill chuck keys.... 
Probably good to include a note not to donate 
expensive stuff: cheap drills work till they break, 
expensive drills work till they walk. 

    Put the exotic and dangerous tools in an obscure 
and unlabeled place. 
    Don't put all the motorized tools together; put 
drills near screwdrivers, sanders near sandpaper... 
(don't worry that drills are for drilling as well as 
for screwdriving--make a stand and to hell with logic). 

    I told Monok that the most important thing is the 
appearance of order, not an approach to perfect 
category relationships. He nodded, either agreeing 
or bored. 

    We are and probably always will be in the lowest 
level of the Capability Maturity Model (CMM): chaos 
and heroism. I say embrace it; good if the occasional 
heros know of each other supportively .




On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 11:14 -0800, Jake wrote:
> bump
> 
> i agree with everything you said.  I think that sometimes, shops or work 
> areas get "cleaned up" or "organized" by people who don't know what those 
> areas are for and while some might say it's better than leaving it a mess, 
> i disagree.
> 
> I think it basically comes down to people who don't have anything to do, 
> and are at noisebridge for the wrong reasons, decide to get involved.  And 
> i would like to also blame them for the missing tools but i'm sure entropy 
> has a lot to do with it.
> 
> We should make a shopping list of missing tools and parts (you just 
> started one) and keep it in a wiki.  We can put a sign on the wall in the 
> shop linking people to that list, so they can check to see if what they're 
> looking for is on the "missing" list or not before wasting time searching 
> for it.
> 
> and i'm in agreement that we should consider infrastructure for non-public 
> tool storage with shareable access credentials (combo lock) so that we Can 
> Have Nice Things.
> 
> Although i would prefer to systematically improve the ratio of 
> anti-entropic people to entropic people who spend time at noisebridge.
> 
> -jake
> 
> Jim wrote:
> 
>      Now that I've tried to work in it, the feeling
> is that it was organized by someone who didn't
> know about tools.
> * The hammers are in a drawer labeled "wrenches",
>    which should be re-labeled "wrenches, hammers,
>    pounders, garden tools, and vacuum cleaner parts".
> * There are no #1 or #2 or #3 philips screwdrivers.
>    There are a couple of >3 philips screwdrivers.
> * Best I can see there are no chuck keys for any
>    of the (remaining, low-quality) electric drills.
> * There are probably a lot of drill bits in there,
>    but I haven't found them.
> * hacksaws have no blades.
> 
>      I think the model of having useful, good tools
> available for anyone who saunters in to do stuff
> is proven failed.
>      I like the model of a few heavy, hard-to-move
> power tools along with some cheap, manual hand tools.
>      I also like the model of sub-communities, groups
> of a few people with shared interests that can lock
> their good tools in some lockable bin that is theirs
> and sits in the dirty shop. Or in some other place,
> not a member shelf.
> 
> 
> 
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